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	<title>Comments on: Pennslyvania Teachers Retirement Funds Says it Needs Billions More From Taxpayers</title>
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		<title>By: Mondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

I taught for some years--after being in business--then I left teaching and went back to business.  Who knows?  I might return one day.  I enjoyed it.

But, I used to say two things in the teachers&#039; lounge:

1-If you think teaching is hard, leave for a year, go sell furniture or mine coal.  You&#039;ll be kissing the lounge floor when you get back that you&#039;re employed as a teacher.

2-You can&#039;t pay a good teacher enough.  But, not everyone&#039;s a good teacher.  If you&#039;re a teacher, then you know that far too many are more concerned with anything but teaching.  Unfortunately, the teachers&#039; unions have made it almost impossible for these people to be replaced. I used to say that you had to rape the principal&#039;s daughter in order to get fired.  In our county, I can only remember 2 teachers getting fired in a 24-year period.

When teachers get serious and demand that their unions reward good teaching, then people will get serious about returning teachers to the status they had in the 50s, 60s and 70s.  Teachers want to be treated as &quot;professionals&quot; but act like anything but. The only thing that qualifies them as &#039;professionals&#039; would be their argument of continuing education--which unfortunately, as I&#039;m sure you well know--involves many times taking classes in Communications, Education, anything but their core teaching fields.

Again, I&#039;m not saying that this is all teachers, but the good ones have allowed the others to co-opt them and the public has taken notice.  Teachers should do something about that instead of attacking the people who pay the bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>I taught for some years&#8211;after being in business&#8211;then I left teaching and went back to business.  Who knows?  I might return one day.  I enjoyed it.</p>
<p>But, I used to say two things in the teachers&#8217; lounge:</p>
<p>1-If you think teaching is hard, leave for a year, go sell furniture or mine coal.  You&#8217;ll be kissing the lounge floor when you get back that you&#8217;re employed as a teacher.</p>
<p>2-You can&#8217;t pay a good teacher enough.  But, not everyone&#8217;s a good teacher.  If you&#8217;re a teacher, then you know that far too many are more concerned with anything but teaching.  Unfortunately, the teachers&#8217; unions have made it almost impossible for these people to be replaced. I used to say that you had to rape the principal&#8217;s daughter in order to get fired.  In our county, I can only remember 2 teachers getting fired in a 24-year period.</p>
<p>When teachers get serious and demand that their unions reward good teaching, then people will get serious about returning teachers to the status they had in the 50s, 60s and 70s.  Teachers want to be treated as &#8220;professionals&#8221; but act like anything but. The only thing that qualifies them as &#8216;professionals&#8217; would be their argument of continuing education&#8211;which unfortunately, as I&#8217;m sure you well know&#8211;involves many times taking classes in Communications, Education, anything but their core teaching fields.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying that this is all teachers, but the good ones have allowed the others to co-opt them and the public has taken notice.  Teachers should do something about that instead of attacking the people who pay the bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a teacher for the 29 years I would like to repond to some of the comments being made about the teaching profession. Before you write in and make a comment please get the facts. I don&#039;t know where you think a teacher can&#039;t get fired. Get on the state education web site. They made it real easy to see just how many teachers have gotten fired or lost their teaching certificate which in my mind is the same as getting fired. If you think we work only 6 hours a day, get real. I would like you to talk to my wife so she could tell you how many times she yelled at me for bringing my work home or taking it with me when we were on vacation. That&#039;s right!!! VACATION!!! So please don&#039;t tell me that I only work 6 hours a day. For you people who still think we get paid for the summer, what color clouds are in your world. I&#039;m not claiming that teachers have the hardest job out there. But, please don&#039;t make it sound like we have a cake job and get paid high salaries for doing next to nothing. What I don&#039;t understand is the people who think we have it so noce, why not go to college get a degree and become a teacher and get the benefits your complaining about If you have the drive to do this, work as a teacher for at least 5 years. I guarantee your attitude will chnage about the teaching profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a teacher for the 29 years I would like to repond to some of the comments being made about the teaching profession. Before you write in and make a comment please get the facts. I don&#8217;t know where you think a teacher can&#8217;t get fired. Get on the state education web site. They made it real easy to see just how many teachers have gotten fired or lost their teaching certificate which in my mind is the same as getting fired. If you think we work only 6 hours a day, get real. I would like you to talk to my wife so she could tell you how many times she yelled at me for bringing my work home or taking it with me when we were on vacation. That&#8217;s right!!! VACATION!!! So please don&#8217;t tell me that I only work 6 hours a day. For you people who still think we get paid for the summer, what color clouds are in your world. I&#8217;m not claiming that teachers have the hardest job out there. But, please don&#8217;t make it sound like we have a cake job and get paid high salaries for doing next to nothing. What I don&#8217;t understand is the people who think we have it so noce, why not go to college get a degree and become a teacher and get the benefits your complaining about If you have the drive to do this, work as a teacher for at least 5 years. I guarantee your attitude will chnage about the teaching profession.</p>
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