Put your money where your considerable mouth is: I’ll bet I’ve taken more a) soil samples and b) water samples in one year than you have in your lifetime. And I’ll spot you 15 soil samples if you’re a “researcher.” And by researcher, I mean someone who is paid for their research.

I don’t dislike you. I don’t know you. I do know your type.

Oh, and keep lecturing.

It’s one reason you’re doomed to fail winning converts to your cause.

What the hell do you know when I look outside? That’s a bit presumptuous, I’d say.

I don’t see anything but trees. In all directions.

And facts from “GreenFacts” won’t win many arguments here. Link to something that isn’t pure propaganda for a religious cult, please. I’m not sure I’d win you over by linking to Genesis 6-16,17: basically, “Go forth and multiply.”

There are people who come out from the city and try to tell us how to run our land.–Greenies. Sorry.

If you’re taking care of your land, your land will take care of you. Don’t be telling people how best to take care of their own land.

Buy your own and let it grow up to your hearts’ content–but that usually doesn’t make the Greenies very happy. Because it not about the Green, it’s about the Red. As in Red Comrades know best how to live your life and run your land. The Government’s land? Sell it. Then the Greens can bid for it just like everyone else. If they want it to lay there, that’s okay with me and most other people too.

Thanks for stopping by and adding to the discussion.

Look outside and chances are yes you do see some trees, but if you knew what you were taking about, those are not naturally occurring trees. They are most likely Aspen and other fast growing species of trees logging companies plant and replant because they grow quickly or city and government planners grow for aesthetics, or invasive persistent species like Buckthorn. These are genetically engineered biologically impoverished remnant forests and these changes of habitats, along with many other numerous and exasperating factors, have driven many species and plants to extinction and to become endangered. (Not to mention all the CO2 these past and presently logged and cleared forests released into the air and continue to.)

“Overall, deforestation has been taking place at a pace of about 130 000 km2 (13 million hectares) per year during the period 1990–2005 (an area the size of Greece), with few signs of a significant decrease over time. Though deforestation continues at an alarming rate, the annual net loss of forest area is decreasing due to tree planting and natural expansion of forests in some countries and regions.

Thus when taking into account both estimated gains and losses, the total net loss in forest area between 1990 and 2000 was about 89 000 km2 per year. Thereafter, in the period between 2000 and 2005 estimated net loss in forest area was somewhat lower with 73 000 km2 per year, equivalent to a loss of 200 km2 of forest per day.”http://www.greenfacts.org/en/forests/l-3/2-extent-deforestation.htm#2p0

“One of the main “techniques” used by the US Forest Service and other agencies in their attack on the natural forests has been clearcutting (even-age logging) and its associated practices of roadbuilding, slash burning, site preparation and pesticide use. Since the Forest Service adopted even-age logging as the primary method about 35 years ago, many of the ecologically richest federal forests have been wiped out, mangled by clearcutting. The irony is that the Federal government is paying billions of dollars per year to the Forest Service and other agencies to administer our national forests, which includes the logging program. Billions of taxpayer dollars have been lost”

No thank you for your reply….

Hard to know where to begin, so I’ll just mention one point:

75% of all the fish stocks in the world are already either: exploited, over-exploited or recovering.

Are there any choices other than those three?

On the bright side, there’s more forested acres in the USA than when the Pilgrims landed here in 1620.

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Almost 80% of the Earth’s original forests have already been degraded or completely destroyed
The bad news is, we’re close to crossing most of the rest of the boundaries. Estimates say, that we currently allow 9.5 million tons of phosphorus to flow annually into our oceans, mostly because of fertilizer use, and that past 11 million tons we may well trigger “large-scale ocean anoxic events.”(Dead zones in oceans and water where no productive life can longer inhabit) Ozone concentrations in the atmosphere— 290 Dobson units before the Industrial Revolution and 283 at present — can’t dip below 276 without catastrophe, the authors note.

Oh, and the worse news is, we’re already well past 3 of the borders. We’re removing almost 4 times as much nitrogen from the atmosphere for human use as is safe, and the result are things like wide-scale water pollution and the addition of heat-trapping gases like nitrous oxide into the atmosphere. The species extinction rate, the authors argue, is probably 10 times the tolerable level of 10 species per million species per year, though they add that they’re less certain of this than other numbers it’s probably more. “However, we can say with some confidence that Earth cannot sustain the current rate of loss without significant erosion of ecosystem resilience

In Australia, agriculture has altered or destroyed half of all woodland and forests. Around 70% of the remaining forest has been damaged by logging. Loss of habitats is behind 80% of threatened species, the report claims.

•Nearly half the world’s people are crowded into urban areas, often without adequate sanitation, and are exposed to epidemics of such diseases as measles and flu.
•With 1.2 billion people lacking clean water, waterborne infections account for 80% of all infectious diseases. Increased water pollution creates breeding grounds for malaria-carrying mosquitoes, killing 1.2 million to 2.7 million people a year, and air pollution kills about 3 million people a year. Unsanitary living conditions account for more than 5 million deaths each year, of which more than half are children.
•Air pollution from smoke and various chemicals kills 3 million people a year. In the United States alone about 3 million tons of toxic chemicals are released into the environment — contributing to cancer, birth defects, immune system defects and many other serious health problems.
•Soil is contaminated by many chemicals and pathogens, which are passed on to humans through direct contact or via food and water. Increased soil erosion worldwide not only results in more soil being blown but spreading of disease microbes and various toxins.

Environmental woes that might be considered catastrophic in some countries can seem commonplace in China: industrial cities where people rarely see the sun; children killed or sickened by lead poisoning or other types of local pollution; a coastline so swamped by algal red tides that large sections of the ocean no longer sustain marine life.
China is choking on its own success. The economy is on a historic run, posting a succession of double-digit growth rates. But the growth derives, now more than at any time in the recent past, from a staggering expansion of heavy industry and urbanization that requires colossal inputs of energy, almost all from coal, the most readily available, and dirtiest, source.
China’s problem has become the world’s problem. Sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides spewed by China’s coal-fired power plants fall as acid rain on Seoul, South Korea, and Tokyo. Much of the particulate pollution over Los Angeles originates in China, according to the Journal of Geophysical Research.

• 75% of all the fish stocks in the world are already either: exploited, over-exploited or recovering. 27% of coral reefs have already been, and 70% of Earth’s coral reefs will cease to exist within the next 38 years. The world has lost half of its coastal wetlands, including mangrove swamps and salt marshes.
• In the next 30 years, as many as 1/5 of all species alive today will become extinct. 23% of all mammals and 12% of all birds’ species were considered “threatened” in 2003

yea…please don’t listen to this guy. We literally and sadly can’t afford to get out of this aggrement just for pride, political freedom to systematically ruin the world some more, and for money. It’s sad but the US has made no acknowledgment responsibility or taken active steps to do anything about the environment. And if it takes a global agreement to make the world stop, listen and act, than it’s necessary and prudent to support this aggreement. It’s the legacy the industrial revolution has left the world and someone has to clean it up, and yes it will cost money up front, and we will fund other nations, but to solely assume and postulate that means all world domination, and the apocalype now, is inaccurate, and irresponsible on this gentlemen’s part to spread that uninformed idea. Thank you for your time.

We’re you there when the book was written? Christ! …..and the gaurdians walk right in to rule us while we digg our own graves.