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California’s Atheist Kids’ Summer Camp: Archery, Astronomy, and Pro-Abortion
Camp Quest is located in the hills outside historical Nevada City, a former gold rush town. A beautiful local with scenic mountains and former gold mining towns, the camp is the site for 49 “freethinking” kids from “several western states”.
Camp Quest bills itself as a “secular” summer camp for kids whose parents are “Atheists, Freethinkers, Humanists, and Brights”. The “purpose” of the camp:
“…to provide children of freethinking parents a residential summer camp dedicated to improving the human condition through rational inquiry, critical and creative thinking, scientific method, self-respect, ethics, competency, democracy, free speech, and the separation of religion and government guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.”
“Improving the human condition” was the mantra of the former movement called eugenics using “scientific methods” such as forced sterilization and birth control.
Part of the curriculum: learning about evolution and pro-choice pioneer Margaret Sanger, the patron saint of Planned Parenthood. Here’s a quote from the Sacramento Bee:
“It’s important for them to have a place to learn how to investigate the world and to not accept what they hear,” said camp director Chris Lindstrom of Los Altos. “Plus the kids enjoy meeting other kids from similar families.”
Quite an interesting statement, especially if one were to apply those standards to Margaret Sanger and Sanger’s very real involvement in Social Darwinism and Eugenics, the movement that was instrumental in literally thousands being forcefully sterilized by state legal mandates due to “inferior genetics”.
“Advocacy in favor of sterilization was one of Harry Laughlin’s first major projects at the Eugenics Record Office. In 1914, he published a Model Eugenical Sterilization Law that proposed to authorize sterilization of the “socially inadequate” – people supported in institutions or “maintained wholly or in part by public expense. The law encompassed the “feebleminded, insane, criminalistic, epileptic, inebriate, diseased, blind, deaf; deformed; and dependent” – including “orphans, ne’er-do-wells, tramps, the homeless and paupers.” By the time the Model Law was published in 1914, twelve states had enacted sterilization laws.
By 1924, approximately 3,000 people had been involuntarily sterilized in America; the vast majority (2,500) in California. That year Virginia passed a Eugenical Sterilization Act based on Laughlin’s Model Law. It was adopted as part of a cost-saving strategy to relieve the tax burden in a state where public facilities for the “insane” and “feebleminded” had experienced rapid growth. The law was also written to protect physicians who performed sterilizing operations from malpractice lawsuits. Virginia’s law asserted that “heredity plays an important part in the transmission of insanity, idiocy, imbecility, epilepsy and crime…” It focused on “defective persons” whose reproduction represented “a menace to society.”
Eugenics Archives
Sanger’s past has been rewritten by Planned Parenthood and there’s no doubt Camp Quest will be teaching a revisionist history designed to paint Sanger as a “free” and “critical” thinker, whose “pioneering” work led to a woman’s “right to choose” birth control or abortion. What will most be assuredly missing: the right of the kids to know Sanger’s full involvement in the eugenics movement.
“The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
The insanity over Sanger’s patron saint status rose to new heights when, at the end of April, Hillary Clinton, apparently another “free” and “critical” thinker, accepted Planned Parenthood’s Margaret Sanger Award.
Here’s what Clinton said:
“The 20th century reproductive rights movement, really embodied in the life and leadership of Margaret Sanger, was one of the most transformational in the entire history of the human race. It has changed the lives of tens of millions of women. It has changed attitudes and perceptions about women and our roles in society. It ushered in demographic and social changes that have brought us closer to gender equality than at any time.
Yet we know that Margaret Sanger’s work here in the United States and certainly across our globe is not done. Here at home, there are still too many women who are denied their rights because of income, because of opposition, because of attitudes that they harbor. But around the world, too many women are denied even the opportunity to know about how to plan and space their families. They’re denied the power to do anything about the most intimate of decisions.”
Here’s what Sanger said about birth control being used to control the “greatest menace to society”, the “unbalance between the “unfit” and the “fit”:
“As an advocate of birth control I wish … to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feebleminded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.
“On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”
– Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.”
In 1932, Sanger put together her “Plan for Peace”, where she actually sat down and devised a plan where the government would enact a “Parliament of Population”, in which “forced sterilization” would be implemented by the government:
“d. to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.
e. to insure the country against future burdens of maintenance for numerous offspring as may be born of feebleminded parents, by pensioning all persons with transmissible disease who voluntarily consent to sterilization.”
The “plan” proffered by Sanger was much less than the “six degrees of separation” between pro-choice and eugenics that Planned Parenthood and its ilk would now have people believe.
A reference to eugenics and Roe vs Wade was recently raised during a comment made by Supreme Court Ginsberg in the New York Times Magazine. A comment which seemed to fly right over the head of the journalist interviewing the Justice. Here’s the comment:
“Frankly I had thought that at the time [Roe vs. Wade] was decided,” Ginsburg told her interviewer, Emily Bazelon, “there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to decipher exactly what Ginsberg was referring to: the old social engineering racket of eugenics. What’s amazing about Ginsburg’s comment is that Ginsburg infers there was a parallel concern, of particular growth in populations that “someone” didn’t want to have “too many of”.
The eugenics movement supposedly was “sterilized” after the advent of WWII and Hitler’s implementation of his own particular brand of eugenics and yet here we have, in 2009 no less, a Supreme Court Justice referring to a process of “critical thinking” during Roe vs Wade that the general public was never privy to.
The public has the right to know the whole scope of “critical thinking” that went on when Roe vs Wade was debated and then implemented and whether eugenics played a role. Whether Roe vs Wade was implemented to ensure a woman’s “right to choose” or whether it was a scheme designed to rid America of its socially “unfit”. The very same type of scheme which Sanger was a pioneer, of birth control being used as tool for eugenics even though revisionists now paint Sanger as being the role “model” for women’s rights. Undoubtedly it will be the sanitized, “women’s rights” Sanger whom those kids in summer camp will be taught, while Sanger’s true history will be ignored.
By LBG
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While I may not agree fully with the mission of the camp, what does it matter? The parents know full well the scope of the camp and want their children to receive that sort of education. They have the right to make that decision. As the children age they will form their own opinions. All the time we see children raised in a religious households who grow up and lose their religious values. Would not the same be true for the opposite: raised in an atheist household but grow up to live with religious values?
I say let the kids enjoy the camp.
-W
Mostly Politics- my right of center blog
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W, I don’t think that the “camp” was the point that LBG was trying to make. I think that the point is that history is being systematically twisted into something that it never was, and that the younger generations are being taught lies in the guise of political correctness. Political correctness is simply a method of destroying honesty. The “camp” is only a symptom of a much deeper illness within our society. Consequently the vast majority of our population has no basis upon which to make informed judgements, and are ripe to believe anything which they are told. The people of the world are being lead as sheep to slaughter.
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Judging an 20th century person by PC reasoning and hind sight given by the 21st century is PC at it’s best. Conditions
in the 1910s are NOT the same as conditions in 2010.
History is always “twisted” into something it never was, the arabs currently do it, the germans did it, the americans did it.
The russians are doing it this minute (anniversity of the MR agreement, that started WW2)
But nobody “twists” as well as the established churchs, and the mind sucked pods they produce, hence this particular born again silly ass rant ,
“It’s important for them to have a place to learn how to investigate the world and to not accept what they hear,” said camp director Chris Lindstrom of Los Altos.
Including what they hear in camp, and the MSM, and especialy what they read on the net.
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LBG1 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:33
Dave,
Either you’ve:
Read Sanger’s work, such as her proposal to Congress-which is archived-to implement a “Parliament of Peace” where the “misfits” of society are to be forcefully sterilized then put on government run farms for the remainder of their lives, and you think this is okay,
Or you haven’t bothered to find Sanger’s work and done some research to the true extent of this foul, malignant woman.
Which is it?
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Foul malignant woman? I think your the one who needs to do some reading, She worked with the poor women who were repeatedly suffering due to frequent childbirth and self induced abortions,
She made what she though was human, progressive suggestions by the science and society of her time, just what was the conditions that prevailed in the world at that time?, Under what conditions did the handicapped live in then? Did they live under bridges and out of shopping carts like they do today? Did the teenages sell the use of bodies for small change?
Oh we do so much better on this today, don’t we?
And the science of the time, finding your shoe size by getting your feet x rayed?, the “healing powers” of Radium.
the Social sciences we take for granted was just being born, The end of slavery was only 50 years pass and horses
still a main means of transport.
As for eugenics, that idea has been surfacing and sinking since aristole, and we do practice it today, Various inbred
religious groups do get “checked” before getiing married, and marrying your sister is still illegal. The World Health Organization supplies money worldwide for birth control. Like any other science it can be used to the benefit or harm people.
This is really a religous swipe at an atheists having a summer camp, made by smearing a couragous and well meaning woman trying to make the world a better place using the latest science of her time, at no small cost to herself. Next thing
you’ll be smearing Andrew Carnegie for his involvement in eugenics and building “gasp” public libraries for the masses.
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Dave,
Sanger, herself, wrote that she believed birth control was a handy-dandy method of furthering her prize “cause”: eugenics.
Anyone who was a proponent of eugenics was foul and malignant, Sanger included. As for Sanger’s “good work”, either you haven’t taken the time to research what her true intent was, or…. you agree with her, that the “misfits” of society should be forcefully sterilized and put onto government farms.
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LBG1 Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:34
As for the rest of the “elites”-doctors, politicians, businessmen, scholars, ministers, writers, etc., who were involved in the eugenics movement in the late 1800’s and early part of the 1900’s… they too should be exposed.
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Dave Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 09:47
They are exposed, as the people who dragged the west out of illiteracy and darkness.
You entirely forget the state of living conditions back then, And it was’nt the churchs
lighting the way, we’d be just like Saudi Arabia if they had they’re way over the last 200 years,
H. G. Wells, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, Emile Zola, George Bernard Shaw,
John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Winston Churchill, Linus Pauling, Andrew Carnegie
Pretty much the enitre shapers of this century, A thoughly evil bunch.
I hope this summer camp can bred another batch equally evil
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LBG1 Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 11:11
Those kids are not evil, neither are those who run the camp. This is an issue that involved the forced sterilization-part of Sanger’s “solution” of a “perfect society”-of tens of thousands of men, women, and children by different states, states which later issued a public apology
Those kids deserve to know the whole truth about Sanger, not revisionist history which paints Sanger as a patron saint.
You’re incorrect in assuming this a “religious” attack on Sanger and the Eugenics Movement.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Dave Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 15:28
California’s Atheist Kids’ Summer Camp: Archery, Astronomy, and Pro-Abortion
Sterotyping, , atheism= pro abortation, atheist = socialism, atheism = eugenics?
and BTW Sanger was anti- abortion
“While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.”[
Woman and the New Race (1920)
also from your quotes from the paper
dedicated to improving the human condition through rational inquiry, critical and creative thinking, scientific method, self-respect, ethics, competency, democracy, free speech, and the separation of religion and government guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States
They never said though selective breeding and forcefully sterilized and put onto government farms, You said that, not
them and anyways, that is exactly what is occuring today, only the “farms” are “prision” farms and you don’t need to sterilized,
just prevented from breeding. Eugenrics by other means.
Isn’t the truth that the entirely of western society is to blame* , they ALL agreed to that policy it wasn’t just Sanger, it was the representatives of the people who voted to made those laws, and those who voted them in. not just Sanger & Co. Those laws were being made by the most advanced countries in the world and were supported by the electorate.
Frankly I think your articule is a pro-life frame up**
* we’ve dealt voilently with the weak since the first greek threw an unfit child off the cliff.
** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(social_sciences)
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Dave Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 09:27
Actually her prime “cause” was birth control and womans rights, not eugenics.
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LBG1 Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 22:26
“On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.”
– Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.”
This quote is straight from Sanger on “The “Eugenic” Value of Birth Control “Propaganda”.
It was Sanger and her ilk who contended they were the ones to “set up the rules” on who constituted the mentally and physically defective. Their scheme was eventually carried out in several states where thousands of men, women, and children were forcefully sterilized.
Since you seem unwilling to look into Sanger’s work-which is archived-then it’s fruitless to continue this conversation.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Dave Reply:
July 28th, 2009 at 09:24
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.
Sir Winston Churchill
Indeed it is fruitless to continue, Your fixation on this issue to the point of blindless of what these people accomplished is pityful.
Frankly your articule was both illogical and baseless, you have never addressed any point I’ve made, but continuely return to the same silly ass point , well I’ll address this one. by reversing it
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective
and the logical reverse, which you desire, would be.
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to remove the limit and encourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective
Of course, you can live with and house a bunch of literally “fuckin’ retards, it’s a free country*, your choice, You feed them
and wipe their asses, while they fuck and pop out more with abandon.
The short bus is on it’s way to your house, Leader’s lead by example, Show us the way. Gandhi*
* far from being the protrayed saint, this egoist bastard is responsible for the death of thousands and
making millions of refugues, beware the holyer than thou, they are the worse sort of arseholes
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LBG1 Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:27
Hey Dave,
Found your post, it was stuck in our spam filter.
Thanks for taking the time to post this comment. It’s highly illuminating.
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Noticed you guys deleted my last post.. don’t like losin’
hard liviing Right wing cut throats…… right…..
more like religious MSM dick lickers
assholes
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LBG1 Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:23
Dave,
Have no idea what happened to your last post. Sorry for the inconvenience, and please feel free to post it again.
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LBG1 Reply:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:28
We found your post – it was stuck in our spam filter.
As you see, it wasn’t deleted and is now posted for posterity.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Your defense of Sanger was noteworthy but not in the way you envisioned.
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“Sterotyping, , atheism= pro abortation, atheist = socialism, atheism = eugenics?”
“and BTW Sanger was anti- abortion”
You’re a very ignorant man, Dave.
Excellent article, LBG, whoever you are.
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