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	<title>Comments on: Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion: Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki &#8220;Diss&#8221; a Dead Man</title>
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		<title>By: Minders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i loved your summary!  loved it loved it loved it! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i loved your summary!  loved it loved it loved it! <img src='http://deathby1000papercuts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Temperley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temperley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding summary of the outrageous behavior that defines this &quot;reality&quot; program.   Tamra and Vicki demonstrate why monetary wealth has nothing to do with class.  I live in South Orange County and while cosmetic surgery and body-hugging clothing is the norm, the sinister actions of Vicki and Tamra are not.  I don&#039;t know any women who actually behave this way; and if they did, their husband would leave them, they would lose all professional credibility, and they would be ousted from their social circle.  This type of behavior is not only unacceptable, it is despicable.  When I watched this program, it was always in rerun during the day because I found that watching it at night, right before I went to bed, made me feel ill.  It reminded me of childhood when my mother would tell me to watch &quot;happy&quot; things before bed so I wouldn&#039;t have trouble falling asleep, and then once asleep, wouldn&#039;t have nightmares.  Some of the things I see on this show are nightmare-inducing.

The reunion &quot;special&quot; was the cherry on the poisonous cake that was this season.  The way Vicki and Tamra sat there and acted innocent, as if they were the victims, deserves attention from Emmy voters.  Even Andy Cohen seemed afraid to cross them which is why he tended to agree more with what they said (or just sit quietly) instead of trying to temper their attacks on Gretchen and Lynne.  That&#039;s classic bully behavior.  For fear that s/he will become the target of the bully(ies) him/herself, the person takes the side of the bully instead of standing up for the victim.  Bravo, perhaps, a bouncer or a warden instead of a host for the next reunion special?

I thought the most shudder-worthy part of this particular episode was when Lynne started crying in response to Jeana&#039;s remark and Vikci took that as an opportunity to accuse Lynne of saying things that made her cry.  And speaking of Vicki (and most of the housewives) attacking Lynne for her parenting skills -- which are admittedly worrisome, especially as far as the underage drinking and entitled behavior of her eldest daughter goes -- have they met their own children?  Vicki&#039;s kids can&#039;t stand her (and it is mortifying for the audience to watch her force her daughter into saying she loves her); Tamra assumes the role of a drunk hooker in front of her children; and Jeana is emotionally abused by her children.  

I really am surprised that Vicki&#039;s husband hasn&#039;t left her.  He seems like a nice person.  I wonder if she&#039;ll castrate him in Season Five because she&#039;s already gone through everything else in her arsenal to publicly emasculate him.

Meanwhile, Tamra vascilates between martyr (talking about how her parents&#039; divorce, when she was an adult nonetheless, ruined her life; by the way, if her mother behaved anything like she does, the &quot;why did they divorce&quot; question has been answered) and bully.  I feel literal embarassment when she, like a broken record, endlessly refers to herself as the &quot;hottest housewife in Orange County.&quot;  I beg for a new catchphrase in Season Five.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding summary of the outrageous behavior that defines this &#8220;reality&#8221; program.   Tamra and Vicki demonstrate why monetary wealth has nothing to do with class.  I live in South Orange County and while cosmetic surgery and body-hugging clothing is the norm, the sinister actions of Vicki and Tamra are not.  I don&#8217;t know any women who actually behave this way; and if they did, their husband would leave them, they would lose all professional credibility, and they would be ousted from their social circle.  This type of behavior is not only unacceptable, it is despicable.  When I watched this program, it was always in rerun during the day because I found that watching it at night, right before I went to bed, made me feel ill.  It reminded me of childhood when my mother would tell me to watch &#8220;happy&#8221; things before bed so I wouldn&#8217;t have trouble falling asleep, and then once asleep, wouldn&#8217;t have nightmares.  Some of the things I see on this show are nightmare-inducing.</p>
<p>The reunion &#8220;special&#8221; was the cherry on the poisonous cake that was this season.  The way Vicki and Tamra sat there and acted innocent, as if they were the victims, deserves attention from Emmy voters.  Even Andy Cohen seemed afraid to cross them which is why he tended to agree more with what they said (or just sit quietly) instead of trying to temper their attacks on Gretchen and Lynne.  That&#8217;s classic bully behavior.  For fear that s/he will become the target of the bully(ies) him/herself, the person takes the side of the bully instead of standing up for the victim.  Bravo, perhaps, a bouncer or a warden instead of a host for the next reunion special?</p>
<p>I thought the most shudder-worthy part of this particular episode was when Lynne started crying in response to Jeana&#8217;s remark and Vikci took that as an opportunity to accuse Lynne of saying things that made her cry.  And speaking of Vicki (and most of the housewives) attacking Lynne for her parenting skills &#8212; which are admittedly worrisome, especially as far as the underage drinking and entitled behavior of her eldest daughter goes &#8212; have they met their own children?  Vicki&#8217;s kids can&#8217;t stand her (and it is mortifying for the audience to watch her force her daughter into saying she loves her); Tamra assumes the role of a drunk hooker in front of her children; and Jeana is emotionally abused by her children.  </p>
<p>I really am surprised that Vicki&#8217;s husband hasn&#8217;t left her.  He seems like a nice person.  I wonder if she&#8217;ll castrate him in Season Five because she&#8217;s already gone through everything else in her arsenal to publicly emasculate him.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Tamra vascilates between martyr (talking about how her parents&#8217; divorce, when she was an adult nonetheless, ruined her life; by the way, if her mother behaved anything like she does, the &#8220;why did they divorce&#8221; question has been answered) and bully.  I feel literal embarassment when she, like a broken record, endlessly refers to herself as the &#8220;hottest housewife in Orange County.&#8221;  I beg for a new catchphrase in Season Five.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These women and their wasted lives.  The Orange County season was just as you said.  Wow, and their families will have to live with the despicable behavior their mothers have exhibited to the world for the rest of their lives and beyond.  Nothing to admire at all especially the top three in mean: Vicki, Tamra and Jenna. Nothing to admire, just a virtual train wreck of humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These women and their wasted lives.  The Orange County season was just as you said.  Wow, and their families will have to live with the despicable behavior their mothers have exhibited to the world for the rest of their lives and beyond.  Nothing to admire at all especially the top three in mean: Vicki, Tamra and Jenna. Nothing to admire, just a virtual train wreck of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I a legitimate  Duchess ...yes ,am I a  legitimate Viscounts ,Yes,have I raised 14 Children ...yes ,
 do I sometimes watch the OC Housewife&#039;s ..Yes 
I do have a Comment to make  

Wile I have no problems with the Wife&#039;s , they are hardworking ..(most of them ),and they Play hard ,and it  is there business how there behave in there Private life  But as Mothers ...all I can say ..if those overindulged ,Rude Crude and useless People where my kids ,I would throw them   all under the Bus ,
They are ungrateful ,talk disrespectful,not just to there Mothers ,but also there Friends ,Look a Jeanne&#039;s  Son that ignorant Pig ,who called Tamara all kinds of totally Obscene names , wile they should be out of there Parents home ,and Contribute to Society ,have a job to also help towards  there own  Education ,they sit at Home and Freeload on there hardworking Mothers ,with the expectation that it is there God-given right to do so ,and actually think they deserve it ,What I wish for them ....HARD TIMES ...NO MONEY... No one to be able to bail them out ,so they actualy have to Work
I would be embarrassed ,to admit t hat they are my Kids</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I a legitimate  Duchess &#8230;yes ,am I a  legitimate Viscounts ,Yes,have I raised 14 Children &#8230;yes ,<br />
 do I sometimes watch the OC Housewife&#8217;s ..Yes<br />
I do have a Comment to make  </p>
<p>Wile I have no problems with the Wife&#8217;s , they are hardworking ..(most of them ),and they Play hard ,and it  is there business how there behave in there Private life  But as Mothers &#8230;all I can say ..if those overindulged ,Rude Crude and useless People where my kids ,I would throw them   all under the Bus ,<br />
They are ungrateful ,talk disrespectful,not just to there Mothers ,but also there Friends ,Look a Jeanne&#8217;s  Son that ignorant Pig ,who called Tamara all kinds of totally Obscene names , wile they should be out of there Parents home ,and Contribute to Society ,have a job to also help towards  there own  Education ,they sit at Home and Freeload on there hardworking Mothers ,with the expectation that it is there God-given right to do so ,and actually think they deserve it ,What I wish for them &#8230;.HARD TIMES &#8230;NO MONEY&#8230; No one to be able to bail them out ,so they actualy have to Work<br />
I would be embarrassed ,to admit t hat they are my Kids</p>
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		<title>By: Real Housewives of Orange County Update: Gretchen Gets Smiley with Slade, Bravo Awards and Casting Calls &#124; DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Housewives of Orange County Update: Gretchen Gets Smiley with Slade, Bravo Awards and Casting Calls &#124; DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but had also &#8220;dissed a dead man&#8221;, Gretchen&#8217;s now deceased boyfriend, Jeff, in &#8220;Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki “Diss” a Dead Man&#8220;: &#8220;The accusation was based on a series of phone calls. At no time did Tamra, or her [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but had also &#8220;dissed a dead man&#8221;, Gretchen&#8217;s now deceased boyfriend, Jeff, in &#8220;Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki “Diss” a Dead Man&#8220;: &#8220;The accusation was based on a series of phone calls. At no time did Tamra, or her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DaveX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Vicki and Tamra probably have the most issues of these women and are in desperate need of therapy. I&#039;d *hate* to be Vicki&#039;s husband or one of her kids. She&#039;s a bloody controlling, manipulative monster.

But if you think Gretchen would have been with Jeff had he not had money and spoiled her with outrageously expensive gifts, you really need to think again. I&#039;m sorry, but the gold digger label for her is not too from the mark, as it is for practically all these women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Vicki and Tamra probably have the most issues of these women and are in desperate need of therapy. I&#8217;d *hate* to be Vicki&#8217;s husband or one of her kids. She&#8217;s a bloody controlling, manipulative monster.</p>
<p>But if you think Gretchen would have been with Jeff had he not had money and spoiled her with outrageously expensive gifts, you really need to think again. I&#8217;m sorry, but the gold digger label for her is not too from the mark, as it is for practically all these women.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Real Housewives of Orange County Update: Bravo Awards and Casting Calls; Gretchen Gets Smiley with Slade, - Blogger News Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Real Housewives of Orange County Update: Bravo Awards and Casting Calls; Gretchen Gets Smiley with Slade, - Blogger News Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but had also &#8220;dissed a dead man&#8221;, Gretchen&#8217;s now deceased boyfriend, Jeff, in &#8220;Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki “Diss” a Dead Man&#8220;: &#8220;The accusation was based on a series of phone calls. At no time did Tamra, or her [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but had also &#8220;dissed a dead man&#8221;, Gretchen&#8217;s now deceased boyfriend, Jeff, in &#8220;Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki “Diss” a Dead Man&#8220;: &#8220;The accusation was based on a series of phone calls. At no time did Tamra, or her [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree. She reminds me of a reptile,Snake, should be her nickname.  I don&#039;t see how Simon can stand such a ugly, vile person.  I also don&#039;t want to watch this show anymore if she is on it.  Vicky is just as bad if not worse.  Don could do much better and I hope he does.  Don and Jeana would make a good pair if Jeana would get away from the two ugly ass twins(Tamra and Vicki.)  This show has gone down hill so much because of Tamra, YuK!!!!   I don&#039;t think she could have been hot in her best days, with such an ugly ugly inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree. She reminds me of a reptile,Snake, should be her nickname.  I don&#8217;t see how Simon can stand such a ugly, vile person.  I also don&#8217;t want to watch this show anymore if she is on it.  Vicky is just as bad if not worse.  Don could do much better and I hope he does.  Don and Jeana would make a good pair if Jeana would get away from the two ugly ass twins(Tamra and Vicki.)  This show has gone down hill so much because of Tamra, YuK!!!!   I don&#8217;t think she could have been hot in her best days, with such an ugly ugly inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Memory Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Memory Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki IS a &quot;mean girl&quot; -- it has to always be about her or she is nasty to others!!  Tamra is nasty, too.  Both Vicki and Tamra think they are beautiful, when in fact they are both so plastic and so fake, they are pitiful.  Jeana was my favorite, but some of Vicki &amp; Tamra seems to be rubbing off on her -- get away from them fast, Jeana!!  Gretchen and Lynne - both seem to be sweet and can&#039;t get over being treated like they are by Tamra and Vicki.  Tamra&#039;s son is disgusting and a looser!  Vicki needs to leave her children alone and let them live their own lives - those 2 kids seem to be pretty grounded, especially being raised by a mother like Vicki.  Lynne needs to discipline her girls more - and not &quot;give&quot; so much.... material things.

Vicki and Tamra - if it&#039;s not about you two, you are both mean and nasty to everyone else.  You both made me sick at the racetrack - how you both treated everyone else.  Inside when others were outside - outside when others were inside.  You both dress like you&#039;re in your 20s or teens - you&#039;re not as &quot;hot&quot; as you think you are!!!  Both of you!! 

And Tamra - your dinner party..... what can I say?  If you didn&#039;t know meal etiquette before now, you must have been raised poor white trash or something similar.  You also treated your guest, Gretchen, horribly -- plotting in advance to get her &quot;naked wasted&quot; - and sick your trashy, creapy, looser son on her!  I just don&#039;t know what Simon sees in you - he could do MUCH better.   Like one writer before me said..... you &quot;sealed the deal by popping out two kids fast!&quot;  Yeah!  

Vicki - you&#039;re always saying &quot;Gretchen just wants to be the center of attention&quot; -- well girl, we all KNOW that it is really YOU who wants to be the center of attention.  That&#039;s why you&#039;re so loud, brash, opinionated, mean and think you know everything!  NOT!  Don should divorce you and quick..... you do not deserve him!  You are not good to him - you treat him so badly I can&#039;t believe he stays with you.  Why should he?  You&#039;re a #1 bitch Vicki - mean to  your husband, your kids, and your co-stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki IS a &#8220;mean girl&#8221; &#8212; it has to always be about her or she is nasty to others!!  Tamra is nasty, too.  Both Vicki and Tamra think they are beautiful, when in fact they are both so plastic and so fake, they are pitiful.  Jeana was my favorite, but some of Vicki &amp; Tamra seems to be rubbing off on her &#8212; get away from them fast, Jeana!!  Gretchen and Lynne &#8211; both seem to be sweet and can&#8217;t get over being treated like they are by Tamra and Vicki.  Tamra&#8217;s son is disgusting and a looser!  Vicki needs to leave her children alone and let them live their own lives &#8211; those 2 kids seem to be pretty grounded, especially being raised by a mother like Vicki.  Lynne needs to discipline her girls more &#8211; and not &#8220;give&#8221; so much&#8230;. material things.</p>
<p>Vicki and Tamra &#8211; if it&#8217;s not about you two, you are both mean and nasty to everyone else.  You both made me sick at the racetrack &#8211; how you both treated everyone else.  Inside when others were outside &#8211; outside when others were inside.  You both dress like you&#8217;re in your 20s or teens &#8211; you&#8217;re not as &#8220;hot&#8221; as you think you are!!!  Both of you!! </p>
<p>And Tamra &#8211; your dinner party&#8230;.. what can I say?  If you didn&#8217;t know meal etiquette before now, you must have been raised poor white trash or something similar.  You also treated your guest, Gretchen, horribly &#8212; plotting in advance to get her &#8220;naked wasted&#8221; &#8211; and sick your trashy, creapy, looser son on her!  I just don&#8217;t know what Simon sees in you &#8211; he could do MUCH better.   Like one writer before me said&#8230;.. you &#8220;sealed the deal by popping out two kids fast!&#8221;  Yeah!  </p>
<p>Vicki &#8211; you&#8217;re always saying &#8220;Gretchen just wants to be the center of attention&#8221; &#8212; well girl, we all KNOW that it is really YOU who wants to be the center of attention.  That&#8217;s why you&#8217;re so loud, brash, opinionated, mean and think you know everything!  NOT!  Don should divorce you and quick&#8230;.. you do not deserve him!  You are not good to him &#8211; you treat him so badly I can&#8217;t believe he stays with you.  Why should he?  You&#8217;re a #1 bitch Vicki &#8211; mean to  your husband, your kids, and your co-stars.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not have said it better myself.</description>
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