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Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion: Despicable Housewives Tamra and Vicki “Diss” a Dead Man
Season four of Bravo’s Real Housewives of Orange County and the following reunion were aired and what an “interesting” reunion it was, as viewers watched the housewives diss a dead man.
The dead man was housewife Gretchen’s older boyfriend Jeff, who succumbed to terminal cancer in September.
Gretchen, the accused and unintentional center of attention
Tamra Barney joined the Real Housewives show last season. This season, Gretchen was the new addition, replacing Quinn, who was not invited back. Shortly after the season began, long time housewife, Lauri, left after her son was arrested and put into jail for drug possession. The show then brought in new housewife, Lynne.
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What was interesting about this season was not so much “how” these women lived their lives in sunny Coto, but how the dynamics of the group changed and the behaviors that emerged.
After this season, I’ve come to the conclusion that, even though outwardly, these women live what some what call a “glamorous” lifestyle, inwardly, at least in regards to Tamra and Vicki, they’re shallow, vain, mean, and have low self-esteem.
Her Royal Hotness and Chief Accuser, Tamra Barney
This season viewers watched as Tamra:
* Talked quite a bit about her and her husband’s sex life.
* Modeled sexy lingerie while shopping, then, at her and Simon’s tenth anniversary, wore an outfit for him, and the viewers of the show.
* Made endless jokes about Gretchen being a “gold digger”, that Gretchen was “obsessed” with copying Tamra, (which made me laugh) and that Gretchen couldn’t be “trusted”. (Still laughing)
* Groped husband Simon’s crotch and gave him a lap dance in front of family and friends on a houseboat at Lake Havasu in broad daylight. (Miss Manners would not be amused)
* Took etiquette classes before she hosted a dinner party at her house. Forgot the lesson about host and hostess not plotting to get one of their guests, “naked wasted”.
* Escorted her mother to the hospital where her mother got a facelift.
* Told Gretchen that she, Tamra, would “never” leave the hospital if her husband was sick when Gretchen took a couple of days off and went to the lake with her parents. (Gretchen’s boyfriend was ill for 10 months before he died. Gretchen spent the majority of the time at his bedside)
* Yelled at Simon for “scratching” floors and banister when moving exercise equipment
* Got mad at Gretchen for buying all the pink hats at a “hat” party
* Refused to “hang out” with Lynne, Lynne’s husband, Frank, and Gretchen, and her brother at the Del Mar racetrack, then sat and talked “trash” about Gretchen with Vicki and her husband, Donn, and Simon.
* Had her son Ryan ply Gretchen with too much to drink at Tamra’s dinner party. Told Vicki of her plan, that Tamra was going to get Gretchen, “naked wasted”. Didn’t stop her son from hitting on Gretchen when it was apparent Gretchen was inebriated. Tamra claimed she was “drunk” when she told Vicki about her plan. Yet, to this viewer, the plan was implemented before Gretchen walked into the door. When Tamra told Vicki of the plan, it was well before Tamra had too much to drink.
* Talked quite a bit about her parent’s divorce, which occurred when Tamra was 22, and how it still affected her.
* Took a trip to Iowa in order to get her estranged father to tell her that he loved her. Amazingly, she didn’t ask her father if she was still the “hottest”.
This season, viewers watched as Vicki:
* Contemplated buying a million dollar yacht and built her business.
* Wouldn’t speak nor sit with Jeanna at Lake Havasu because Jeanna had brought Frankie with her.
* Cried when hit in the head with a nerf football while on Lake Havasu.
* Attempted to get her son interested in her line of work, insurance.
* Complained about husband Donn not telling her he loved her or and that he didn’t fill up her “love tank”.
* Take an immediate dislike to both Gretchen and Lynne.
* Gave a cold shoulder to Gretchen and Lynne at the Del Mar Race Track.
* Talked down to Lynne, talked behind Lynne’s back about Lynne being a “stay at home mom”, claimed Lynne was “high” and “stupid”.
* Fell on her butt after receiving a plaque at a meeting.
* Flirted with a friend’s husband in Chicago, sat on his lap, ran her fingers through his hair, and told him her boobs “wanted to come out and play”.
* Glued herself to a younger guy while they danced in a club in Vegas.
* Constantly complained about Gretchen wanting to be the “center” of attention.
* Paid for her son, his friend, and Donn to attend a cruise where her company held a “woohoo” seminar. The three men spent the time partying and refused to take part in the seminar.
The premise of the show is a glimpse into these women’s lives and lifestyle. The show frequently threw the women together by way of outings to restaurants, clubs, and places like the Del Mar racetrack and Vegas. It wasn’t a requirement of the show that these women had to be friends. Gretchen, a naturally pleasant person, extended her friendship to these women, as did Lynne. Instead, they were met with increasingly “hostile” attitude from Vicki while Tamra pretended to be friends in order to gather more information for later gossipmongering.
I suppose it’s time to get to the most egregious accusation I’ve heard in quite a while: Tamra, on the reunion episode, told everyone that she and Vicki had formed the conclusion that Gretchen was a “paid” companion of Jeff’s, that Gretchen had perpetuated a “hoax” on the producers of the show. And how did Tamra and Vicki come to this conclusion?
On the reunion show, Tamra told how she had received a phone call from a man named Jay who claimed he was Gretchen’s boyfriend. I can’t remember the details, it was something about Gretchen leaving Jay by the side of some road and that he may have been drunk when he called. The next day Gretchen called and apologized to Tamra. Tamra then claimed that “Jay” kept calling her house and that Jay talked to Simon “for an hour” on the phone.
Gretchen responded that Jay was an ex-boyfriend, that they had been out partying with friends, and that he had been putting the moves on Gretchen when she kicked him out the car. What was interesting to note was the fact that Jeanna jumped into the conversation with “his clothes were on your bedroom floor” which plainly shocked Gretchen. Gretchen then asked, “what were you doing in my bedroom?” Jeanna didn’t give a good answer.
What Jeanna said made me realize that there was more afoot than what was being said at the reunion. Apparently, at some time, Jeanna, and no telling who else, took a look in Gretchen’s bedroom. Which, in my opinion, was an invasion of Gretchen’s privacy. Now why would someone, snoop in someone’s bedroom, plainly without permission, that was supposed to be their friend?
The bedroom snoop was a mission to dig up “dirt”, plain and simple. Whoever did it, did it with “bad” intentions because you can bet, that would have never occurred to Gretchen, nor Lynne, to go into someone’s bedroom in order to bolster an accusation.
Just who would want to bolster an accusation? Someone who doesn’t have the accused’s “best” interests at heart and who felt threatened. It was obvious that both Vicki and Tamra felt threatened by Gretchen but what surprised me was Jeanna’s comment. It proved to me that Jeanna, at some time, had discussed the accusation with Vicki and Tamra but was unwilling to talk to Gretchen in order to get her side. If it was Jeanna who snooped in the bedroom and told the others about the man’s clothes on the floor, this makes Jeanna the same ilk as Tamra and Vicki.
The accusation was based on a series of phone calls. At no time did Tamra, or her husband, meet this man to verify if he really was who he said he was. At no time did Tamra give Gretchen or Jeff a chance to defend themselves. Instead, the accusation was kept under wraps until well after Jeff was dead. Jeff will never be able to defend himself or Gretchen.
Jeff and Gretchen
Not only will Jeff never be able to defend himself against accusations that he paid Gretchen as a companion, but his children were also tarred and feathered by Tamra’s accusation. During the season, the cameras were in Gretchen and Jeff’s home. It was plain the kids liked Gretchen and admired the ring he gave her. If it were a hoax, the children didn’t behave as if it were one which begs the following question: if there was a hoax, then the kids had to have been in on it too. That’s if you follow Vicki and Tamra’s train of logic. After all the kids stayed with Gretchen in her and Jeff’s home when Jeff was in the hospital and behaved as if they truly liked Gretchen. Not only that, but what about Jeff? Why on earth would a man, terminally ill with cancer, “pay” someone to be his girlfriend? This is totally irrational. A terminally ill man would have other things on his mind when battling cancer. Before he became ill, Jeff was a vigorous man who had many interests and very successful career. A paid companion inferred Jeff was so needy he had to pay someone to be his girlfriend as he faced certain death. This accusation was so scurrilous and ludicrous that it’s not believable and sounds more like a plot from a bad soap opera.
Not only did Tamra not go to Jeff so he could defend himself, but she didn’t go to Gretchen, whom Tamra had extended her friendship. As the old saying goes, “with friends like these, who needs enemies?” Not only did Tamra not talk to Jeff or Gretchen, but she took her tale to Vicki and Jeanna, where the three played “I’ve got a nasty secret”. A “nasty secret” based on accusations from a man Tamra never bothered to confirm his real identity, and never met face to face. Accusations which she didn’t share with the accused. This was unfair and showed Tamra’s true intent, to harm Gretchen. Instead of a “nasty secret” it exposed Tamra as a “nasty piece of work”.
I didn’t think Tamra and Vicki couldn’t get any lower than the “naked wasted” party. Tamra, as hostess, planned on getting a guest drunk in order to compromise them. Vicki was informed of the plan and watched as Gretchen kept getting plied with drinks and Tamra’s son hit on Gretchen. It was foul behavior from Tamra, Vicki, and Ryan. What was even fouler was when Tamra told Gretchen, that in Tamra’ opinion, she and Vicki had come to the conclusion that Gretchen was Jeff’s paid companion.
Which goes back to the show’s premise which doesn’t call for the women to unveil all of their private lives. After all, viewers were never privy to the information that Jeanna’s husband was an alcoholic who spent time in rehabs and in jail during the show. None of the other wives divulged this “secret” about Matt Keough. Gretchen stated that Jay was an ex, whom she had remained friends. Whoever Jay was, he was part of the “private lives” of the wives that should have been kept private. Viewers were not privy to the extensive court battle being waged between Lauri’s husband and his ex-wife over their children, nor the fact that, at one time, Lauri’s son moved in with George’s ex-wife. This season was the very first time when some of the housewives took it upon themselves to pry into another housewife’s private life behind their back and then air what they believed to be “dirty” laundry based upon an accusation.
Vicki stated during an interview that she was a Christian who “cried” and “prayed” everyday, but her behavior this season was far from being Christian like. She was cold, pious, haughty, hypocritical, and down right mean.
During the reunion Jeanna made Lynne cry. Jeanna made a remark, and said something about she just did a “Lynn”, implying she had said something “stupid”. This made Lynne cry. When Vicki was confronted with her behavior towards Lynne, she claimed Lynne said many “hurtful” things about Vicki. Yet Lynne was merely responding to how Vicki treated her. While Jeanna apologized to Lynn, Vicki jumped into defend Jeanna. It’s obvious Vicki’s reality is not the same as the rest of the planet’s.
According to Vicki, she “never” said anything “hurtful” and that during the trip to Del Mar, the reason they didn’t sit together, was because there “wasn’t enough room”. So untrue. You see Vicki can’t take any criticism because her self-esteem is flawed. The same goes for Tamra. This was probably why Vicki “cried” everyday. Which was fascinating. Here you have these women who have great lifestyles, yet they can’t transcend their low self-esteem. No matter how many boob jobs, botox, face lifts, fancy cars, or jewelry, at the end of the day, they are unhappy women who can’t “give” to others nor treat them halfway decent. They reserve their compassion for themselves. When faced with what to do with a very slimy accusation, they chose to carry it to its fruition on national television in order to hurt someone whom they felt “threatened” them. And just how did Gretchen “threaten” them? By being the “center of attention”. At least according to Vicki. Which seems to imply that someone, namely Vicki and Tamra, felt they were the “queens” of the center of attention on Real Housewives by virtue of seniority. But you see, while seniority has its perks, it doesn’t automatically bestow upon one the “center of attention”, or in Tamra’s mind, “hotness”.
Gretchen captured our attention because she was lovely and had a sparkly personality and didn’t hold a grudge. Quite the opposite of Tamra and Vicki. It wasn’t that the center of attention was wrested away from them by Gretchen, as neither Vicki nor Tamra had full possession of it in the past. It was only inside their pointy little heads that they believed they were the center of attention. It was then that the snitfits and nasty behavior began.
What was truly amusing was when Tamra said she didn’t believe that Gretchen could be “trusted”. This, from the woman who used her son and vast amounts of alcohol to compromise Gretchen at Tamra’s “naked wasted” party. I highly doubt that it never would of occurred to Gretchen to get revenge on Tamra for Tamra’s nasty plot. Instead, Gretchen gracefully forgave Tamra. I wonder if Gretchen has had a change of heart for trusting Tamra after what occurred on the reunion.
At this juncture I could care less about Gretchen and this guy Jay. Gretchen wasn’t attempting to throw a coup on Housewives and overtake the “momma dogs”. She didn’t “snoop” in the other women’s lives nor gossip about them about their backs. This, to me, showed Gretchen didn’t have bad “intent”. The bad intent can be squarely laid at the momma dog paws of Tamra and Vicki, and perhaps Jeanna, after that remark about “clothes on Gretchen’s floor”.
As for Tamra, her behavior this season was lewd as I recall her groping Simon’s crotch while on the boat, in front of friends and the couple’s children. Which made me wonder, just where did she pick up this type of behavior and think it was okay?
Her incessant need to be seen as “hot” calls into question as to whether Tamra truly feels she’s hot or or else she that she needs constant reassurance. Even if Tamra were the “hottest” woman in the world, it wouldn’t make up for an “ugly” interior. As Lynne said on the reunion, both Tamra and Vicki are “rocket scientists”. Not bad, Lynne, not bad at all. Couldn’t have written it better.
The accusation that Gretchen was Jeff’s paid companion, very cruel indeed. Which says more about the accusers than the accused. In this case, the accusation has fallen by the wayside and the accusers who are now being judged. As I wrote earlier, Tamra and Vicki, dissed a dead man in his grave who is unable to defend his nor Gretchen’s honor. In my book, that’s a despicable slur and one that used to be met at the corral at noon, pistol in hand.
By LBG
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I loved your Housewives summary.
I too was really disappointed with Vicky’s overly agressive “mama dog” behavior. It seems to me that her popularity from the show has gone to her head. She has developed a diva personality she didn’t seem to have in the previous year. It also drives me crazy the way Vicky constantly seeks reassurance from her family that they love her and uses her job as an excuse from actually spending quality time with her family and friends. I’d like to see Don leave her, take half of everything in the divorce and then date a young hottie (Gretchen is available now). Vicky is so easy to dislike, and I have recently developed an extreme negative reaction to the “Woohoo” sound. (Opps, I think I just threw up a little in my mouth)
I liked Jeanna. You have to realize that living with an abusive alcoholic can take a huge toll on your self esteem. Jeanna tries to be compassionate and understanding, but also wants to run with the moma dogs, so she dishes out spitefule comments here and there to keep up. It really doesn’t seem to suit her, but I think its part of her new attempt at being more confident and assertive. I think she’ll eventually find the balance she needs. I want to know how she does later on.
Lynne, was sweet and I loved her jewelry designs. Be she was also dingy and wishy washy. I didn’t like they way she handled her daughters. I just wanted to shake her a litte to wake her up to what was going on around her. I have to admit, she did seem to have the stoner “whatever” attitude. Every once in a while she would say somethhing really good (like the comment about not discussing insurance at the girls luncheon) but would then quickly back down and look hurt if challenged. I was also annoyed with her tears at the reunion, if something was said that she didn’t like , she should speak up and not just sit there like a sad puppy. She barely spoke at all. Nice lady, but like I said wishy washy.
Tamra, you have her down. She reminds me of a mini-Vicky (except without the work ethic). Always needs to be the center of attention and constantly reassured that she is loved. Tamra is lucky to have Simon, he indulges her and obvioulsy fills her love tank. But she is the last one who should lak about gold digging. What was she doing before she married Simon and quckly popped out children to seal the deal. Who is she kidding, they live in Organge Co. where its common practice gather financial information before even considering dating that person. Tamra, people who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw stones. She was not the hottiest housewife (Gretchen was) but definately keept things interesting on the show. I’m sure the producer’s loved her.
A last but not least Gretchen. Beautiful inside and out, but there was something missing there too. She pretends to be happy and outgoing but she obviously has a devious side to her as well. She’s just alot younger than the others so it hasn’t developed fully yet. I though it was spiteful for her to buy all the pink hats at that party knowing that Tamra was planning to wear a pink and black dress or without saying something to the other ladies first. Gretchen is also overly loud and flirty, and does this to keep the attenetion directly solely on her. Vicky and Tamra are jealous of her because they probably did the same thing in their day and they’re just too old now to compete with a 30 year old hottie. Gretchen’s love affair with Jeff seemed too fast, especially given his extreme poor health for a majority of the time they were together. I disagree with you here, I think their relationship was one of convenience. Gretchen’s initial relationship with Jeff clearly centered on money, she sold him a house and then was hired to decorate it. Gretchen even commented that she was impressed with his lifestyle and admitted that she fell for Jeff because he treated her so well. I don’t think this is wrong, Jeff saw a beautiful woman he wanted and romanced her with gifts. She accepted. The problem I have is that it was portrayed as some great love affair. I think Jeff knew he was terminally ill and wanted one last chance at the thrill of life, the love of a beautiful woman, (who by the way, also acted as his nurse and housekeeper). He romanced her with lavish gifts to keep her around and she knew a good thing when she saw it. I though her dark side came out when she told Jeanna that she forbid Jeff’’s previous wife, the mother of his three children, from visiting him in the hospital without asking her first. She made poor sick Jeff choose between them. This was mean and spiteful and totally uncalled for. I also didn’t like her comment on the reunion show about her relationship with her ex-boyfriend Jay. She said she still cared deeply for him and saw him on a regular basis. I think she took the opportunity to be Jeff’’s arm candy for as long as it was offered and kept in touch with her ex so that she could pick up where they left off once Jeff had passed on. She’s beautiful and bubbly but definately not innocent. Although she was slighly nausiating with her bubbliness and whining , I think she was the shining star of the show.
I’m going to miss these conceited, backstabbing and manipulating witches. The snobby New York crew already bore me.
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LBG1 Reply:
March 14th, 2009 at 12:16
Great synopsis Heidi!
I’m with you about the New York Housewives. I can’t seem to garner any interest in these women and their lives. It will be interesting to see what next season’s roster will be on the Housewives of Orange County. For now, I’m glad to take a break!
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This is so well written and sums up exactly what I was thinking about these horrid women.
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Everytime I watch this show I desperately want to believe that they only appear this shallow due to clever editing…I think I might be fooling myself! I can’t stop watching it though…it’s like a bad car accident. You know you can’t turn away from it.
~T the D
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Great summary. I always thought these women were a little silly and definitely shallow before but the show has taken an ugly turn since Tamra joined. She’s a nasty, nasty creature and I can’t watch her any more. If she’s on next year, I’ll be doing like I did when the RH of Atlanta came on: changing the channel. Tamra and her creepy, predator son are just too much to take.
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Excellent post! I will link to your site. Great reading.
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I agree with everything you wrote.
I miss the seasons of yester year when the housewives actually got along. Since Tamra arrived on the scene, I feel I need to shower after every episode. She’s not a good person and takes no personal accountability. What she’s currently doing to Gretchen all over the internet has only made Tamra look more hateful and childish. The over-processed woman has no soul.
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DH Reply:
March 31st, 2009 at 14:23
I totally agree. She reminds me of a reptile,Snake, should be her nickname. I don’t see how Simon can stand such a ugly, vile person. I also don’t want to watch this show anymore if she is on it. Vicky is just as bad if not worse. Don could do much better and I hope he does. Don and Jeana would make a good pair if Jeana would get away from the two ugly ass twins(Tamra and Vicki.) This show has gone down hill so much because of Tamra, YuK!!!! I don’t think she could have been hot in her best days, with such an ugly ugly inside.
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I agree 100% with everything you wrote. And you can add the following: Vicki claims to be a Christian but from what I understand, she was still married when she started her affair with Donn! Wow! I’d like to know what Bible she’s reading every night that approves of that. And what about the episode where she kept telling Donn he should’ve adopted her kids? Umm hello Miss Ignorant, that would mean their natural father would have to give up his parental rights, which I highly doubt he would do especially after we all witness how you treat Donn.
And not only was Tamra groping Simon in front of others, how about trying to pull down his bathing suit and telling him to show off his pubes?? That’s real class you got going there, Tamra…low class, but still class.
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Your article was spot on! I read that same article where Vicki claims to “pray and cry” everyday and in it Vicki asks us, the viewers, to be gentle with her because she is quite sensitive….but I ask…Vicki….where is your sensitivity?? Vicki is seriously delusional in regard to accussing Lynn of being mean to her…that just proves she is not living in the same universe as everyone else…If any of Lynn’s comments were negative towards vicki – they were in response to Vicki’s constant assault on Lynn and well deserved!! Vicki’s reaction to Lynn having a differing opinion about how Gretchen should handle her financial situation with Jeff was ….was…I dunno what to even call it…freakishly defensive,,,, I mean she just about lost her mind that someone actually spoke out with an opinion different than hers!! And Jeanna’s comment about “not messn’ with the momma dogs” was a clear look into the way these women view themselves on this show…like there is a true pecking order….Get over yourselves!!!!
In the article that I refer to earlier even Vicki refers to Jeana playing both sides of the fence. I know Jeanna has a reputation as the warm, motherly housewife and is well liked by most viewers but I think a lot of people’s opinions were changed a bit by some of her behavior this season. I believe Jeanna is all of those things but I also think she has a bit of Passive Aggressive behavior but lets face it she is def damaged after being in an abusive relationship with her alcoholic husband for all those years, which was never more apparnet than this seasons showing of her eldest sons behavior towards her…that hurt just to watch…
The Bottom Line is: What other reason did these women have for outting Gretchen like they did on Nat’l tv but straight up jealousy and cattiness, like that of hight school girls …and vicki (on the reunion show) asking Gretchen, at the end of Tamras diabtribe of accustioins regarding the “j” word…”Did you sleep with him?” How dare she!! Like you said did we ever hear about Matt Keoughs arrests and stints in rehab and jail?. What about accustions that Tamra Barneys husband, Simon, was let go from Fletcher Jones due to Tamras airing their sexual habits on Nat’l television and other classy tid bits about Simons behavior at the Mercedes Benz dealership and there’s not enuogh time in the day to discuss Lauri and George and their mess….There are plenty of things regarding these women’s lives that were never questioned or mentioned on the show or at the reunion and they are just lucky that Gretchen doesnt appear to be vengeful; cause she could certainly dig up plenty o’ dirt on these hags and decide to publicize but that doensn’t seem to be what she is about.
Thanks for such a well thought out and thorough article!!
Jackie
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Great summary
Tamra, Vicky and Jeana are the sad, small people.
You are so correct their low self esteem determines every aspect of their life.
Only someone who think so little of themselves beat up on others (Gretchen and Lynne).
The trio are like the school yard bullies.
I find it funny that Tamra is blogging for NYC housewives and has made fun of one of the housewives for taking two years to renovate when Tamra is getting foreclosed upon because she bought a house she couldn’t afford.
She doesn’t seem to understand the logic of spending money only when you have the money.
From the aspect of low self esteem they reek of it.
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I could not have said it better myself.
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Vicki IS a “mean girl” — it has to always be about her or she is nasty to others!! Tamra is nasty, too. Both Vicki and Tamra think they are beautiful, when in fact they are both so plastic and so fake, they are pitiful. Jeana was my favorite, but some of Vicki & Tamra seems to be rubbing off on her — get away from them fast, Jeana!! Gretchen and Lynne – both seem to be sweet and can’t get over being treated like they are by Tamra and Vicki. Tamra’s son is disgusting and a looser! Vicki needs to leave her children alone and let them live their own lives – those 2 kids seem to be pretty grounded, especially being raised by a mother like Vicki. Lynne needs to discipline her girls more – and not “give” so much…. material things.
Vicki and Tamra – if it’s not about you two, you are both mean and nasty to everyone else. You both made me sick at the racetrack – how you both treated everyone else. Inside when others were outside – outside when others were inside. You both dress like you’re in your 20s or teens – you’re not as “hot” as you think you are!!! Both of you!!
And Tamra – your dinner party….. what can I say? If you didn’t know meal etiquette before now, you must have been raised poor white trash or something similar. You also treated your guest, Gretchen, horribly — plotting in advance to get her “naked wasted” – and sick your trashy, creapy, looser son on her! I just don’t know what Simon sees in you – he could do MUCH better. Like one writer before me said….. you “sealed the deal by popping out two kids fast!” Yeah!
Vicki – you’re always saying “Gretchen just wants to be the center of attention” — well girl, we all KNOW that it is really YOU who wants to be the center of attention. That’s why you’re so loud, brash, opinionated, mean and think you know everything! NOT! Don should divorce you and quick….. you do not deserve him! You are not good to him – you treat him so badly I can’t believe he stays with you. Why should he? You’re a #1 bitch Vicki – mean to your husband, your kids, and your co-stars.
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I agree that Vicki and Tamra probably have the most issues of these women and are in desperate need of therapy. I’d *hate* to be Vicki’s husband or one of her kids. She’s a bloody controlling, manipulative monster.
But if you think Gretchen would have been with Jeff had he not had money and spoiled her with outrageously expensive gifts, you really need to think again. I’m sorry, but the gold digger label for her is not too from the mark, as it is for practically all these women.
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Am I a legitimate Duchess …yes ,am I a legitimate Viscounts ,Yes,have I raised 14 Children …yes ,
do I sometimes watch the OC Housewife’s ..Yes
I do have a Comment to make
Wile I have no problems with the Wife’s , they are hardworking ..(most of them ),and they Play hard ,and it is there business how there behave in there Private life But as Mothers …all I can say ..if those overindulged ,Rude Crude and useless People where my kids ,I would throw them all under the Bus ,
They are ungrateful ,talk disrespectful,not just to there Mothers ,but also there Friends ,Look a Jeanne’s Son that ignorant Pig ,who called Tamara all kinds of totally Obscene names , wile they should be out of there Parents home ,and Contribute to Society ,have a job to also help towards there own Education ,they sit at Home and Freeload on there hardworking Mothers ,with the expectation that it is there God-given right to do so ,and actually think they deserve it ,What I wish for them ….HARD TIMES …NO MONEY… No one to be able to bail them out ,so they actualy have to Work
I would be embarrassed ,to admit t hat they are my Kids
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These women and their wasted lives. The Orange County season was just as you said. Wow, and their families will have to live with the despicable behavior their mothers have exhibited to the world for the rest of their lives and beyond. Nothing to admire at all especially the top three in mean: Vicki, Tamra and Jenna. Nothing to admire, just a virtual train wreck of humanity.
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Outstanding summary of the outrageous behavior that defines this “reality” program. Tamra and Vicki demonstrate why monetary wealth has nothing to do with class. I live in South Orange County and while cosmetic surgery and body-hugging clothing is the norm, the sinister actions of Vicki and Tamra are not. I don’t know any women who actually behave this way; and if they did, their husband would leave them, they would lose all professional credibility, and they would be ousted from their social circle. This type of behavior is not only unacceptable, it is despicable. When I watched this program, it was always in rerun during the day because I found that watching it at night, right before I went to bed, made me feel ill. It reminded me of childhood when my mother would tell me to watch “happy” things before bed so I wouldn’t have trouble falling asleep, and then once asleep, wouldn’t have nightmares. Some of the things I see on this show are nightmare-inducing.
The reunion “special” was the cherry on the poisonous cake that was this season. The way Vicki and Tamra sat there and acted innocent, as if they were the victims, deserves attention from Emmy voters. Even Andy Cohen seemed afraid to cross them which is why he tended to agree more with what they said (or just sit quietly) instead of trying to temper their attacks on Gretchen and Lynne. That’s classic bully behavior. For fear that s/he will become the target of the bully(ies) him/herself, the person takes the side of the bully instead of standing up for the victim. Bravo, perhaps, a bouncer or a warden instead of a host for the next reunion special?
I thought the most shudder-worthy part of this particular episode was when Lynne started crying in response to Jeana’s remark and Vikci took that as an opportunity to accuse Lynne of saying things that made her cry. And speaking of Vicki (and most of the housewives) attacking Lynne for her parenting skills — which are admittedly worrisome, especially as far as the underage drinking and entitled behavior of her eldest daughter goes — have they met their own children? Vicki’s kids can’t stand her (and it is mortifying for the audience to watch her force her daughter into saying she loves her); Tamra assumes the role of a drunk hooker in front of her children; and Jeana is emotionally abused by her children.
I really am surprised that Vicki’s husband hasn’t left her. He seems like a nice person. I wonder if she’ll castrate him in Season Five because she’s already gone through everything else in her arsenal to publicly emasculate him.
Meanwhile, Tamra vascilates between martyr (talking about how her parents’ divorce, when she was an adult nonetheless, ruined her life; by the way, if her mother behaved anything like she does, the “why did they divorce” question has been answered) and bully. I feel literal embarassment when she, like a broken record, endlessly refers to herself as the “hottest housewife in Orange County.” I beg for a new catchphrase in Season Five.
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i loved your summary! loved it loved it loved it!
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