No Biden: Rumors Swirl Over Obama Dumping Biden for Hillary Clinton
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UPDATE: 1711 EDT - No Obama-Biden Merchandise at Democrat Booth
UPDATE2: 23:15 EDT- Comment
You can find out a lot about a person by how they handle adversity.
As the Democrat ticket experiences the turbulence of campaigning in the country at large and declining poll numbers, rumors are flying that Joe Biden will soon be dumped from the ticket.
The rumors started last week and continue to pick up steam.
JoshuaPundit asks, “Biden to Leave the Ticket??”
The way it’s supposedly going down is that sometime after October 5th Biden will step down from being Obama’s running mate because of ‘health reasons’and Hillary will come on the ticket. The reason for the October 5th date is the VP debate on October 2nd, which Biden will handle either because Hillary wouldn’t have sufficient time to prep or simply refused..and anyway, they want Hillary to be an October surprise and try to pull things out at the last minute.
Say Anything’s Rob has also heard the “Dump Biden” talk.
Apparently there’s some buzz about Joe Biden possibly resigning from the Presidential race (or Obama giving him the boot from his ticket, depending on how you see it). Is that what’s going to happen?
I don’t think so.
InstaPundit, Glenn Reynolds, says of the “Dump Biden” rumors, “Don’t see it happening myself, but obviously some people do.”
InstaPundit reader Jim Beam thinks the rumors may have some substance, however:
“Get ready for Obama to pull a Torrecelii/Lautenberg switcheroo. There are waaay too many rumors, trial balloons, and headfakes going around for this to not have substance behind it.
Have your responses prepared. Whatever “narrative” they concoct for the switch, it’s obvious that they’re doing it only because The Anointed One is behind in the polls. It destroys Obama’s claim of judgment being his prime qualification, trust of the voters and convention delegates, and his claim to experience in running a successful campaign.”
But reader Mike J. at Hennesey’s View, isn’t buying the Biden-for-Hillary switcheroo.
There are other factors that mitigate against Hillary moving onto the ticket:
–Obama’s followers HATE her with a passion. He could easily lose more votes than attract by picking Hillary. There are also lots of media types that despise her. Obama allying with Hillary might be too much to swallow.
–Obama cannot stand to be overshadowed by anyone. While McCain is perfectly comfortable in the presence of a charismatic politician like Sarah Palin, Obama is not. It doesn’t help that it does not take much to overshadow Obama.
–The Democratic Party has resolved this would be the year in which the Clintonistas are purged from the party. The move of the DNC to Chicago was almost entirely due to the desire to purge the party operation of Clinton appointees.
Ace says the Biden pick highlighted what kind of ‘experience’ Obama has in making crucial decisions.
Barack Obama’s judgment was that Joe Biden was the best possible vice presidential candidate.
Joe Biden says he’s wrong. This was Obama’s first major decision as a would-be president.
He got it wrong.
We agree with Allahpundit: “Even more serious question: If Obama’s imploding, why would Hillary agree to come aboard? Better to let McCain finish him off and then skip to the nomination in 2012.”
Will Joe Biden be dumped for Hillary Clinton?
Will this help the Democrat ticket?
We’ll let Joe Biden plead Hillary’s case: “She is easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me, but she is first-rate. I mean that sincerely.”
Lastly, we’ll revisit an interesting quote from our June article, “Astrologer’s Presidential Election Predictions Troubling“.
The astrologers looked at the planetary circumstances surrounding election day, how it had been 45 years since the last time Saturn opposed Uranus, which could portend “social change, transformation, and possibly upheaval”.
“With Saturn opposite Uranus on Election Day, the person elected on Election Day may not be the person who’s inaugurated in January.” Raymond Merriman, Astrologer.
Could part of the “tranformation” and “upheaval” mentioned above be Joe Biden jumping from the ticket?
Time will tell. One thing we can say about these 2008 Election rumors:
Dan Rather will play no official part in promoting them.
UPDATE: 17:11 EDT
A reader, C. Neiman, posts this telling comment: “I did wonder when I got my Obama yard sign last week why Biden’s name isn’t on it.”
Which reminded us of a stop at a Democrat booth this past weekend. There were plenty of “Obama” merchandise–but “Obama-Biden” stickers or signs.
There was plenty of stickers and signs for local Democrats. There were no Obama-Biden stickers or signs present at the booth.
Is this significant? Or just an oversight?
UPDATE #2: 2315 EDT
In a comment to the link to this story at Little Green Footballs, from HelloDare:
“Just not going to happen. But in a compromise Biden will start wearing some of Hillary’s old pant suits.”
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I did wonder when I got my Obama yard sign last week why Biden’s name isn’t on it.
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Biden is a perfect politician - experienced, intelligent, wise. But that’s it. When Palin came to stage, and “PalinMania” started, Biden became invisible. So rumors claim, that Biden will officially “resign because of health problems”, and Obama will invite Hillary to join his fight against Palin. Because she, and no longer McCain, is Obama’s biggest problem now. http://www.votetheday.com/polls/obama-is-dumping-biden-269
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I think if Obama does this he will appear to be an idiot.
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But this will never happen.
Its just spin from the left to get Sarah Palin to stop saying nice things about Hillary that will leech voters away from the DNC.
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If you believe this moose hooey, I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
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Thanks for da link! DBKP is a killer site.
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Well, he’s got to do something fast.
Biden was a bad choice. He’s just a zero personality wise and he can’t open his mouth without putting his foot into it.
Him faking a health problem and withdrawing for not being healthy enough to be president would definitely cast a shadow of doubt on McCain.
All in all, I’d say it was a good idea for Obama.
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Hands down this would be the best move Obama could make.
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hell, I thought BIden dropped out weeks ago. Haven’t seen his name in print since August.
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Palin’s already bigger than Hillary. Check the Lycos top 50
http://50.lycos.com/
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They started making plans to dump Biden ever since McCain announced Palin. They are HORRIFIED of Palin
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Jesus, this is some dubious stuff. This would have to be staged as a 100% Biden decision and a ‘reluctant acceptance’ by Obama. I just can’t buy it. But in a year like this one, I must admit anything is possible.
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I just saw Biden tonight on CNN, Olbermann and 360. He looked very healthy to me.
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“He looked very healthy to me.” Agreed, but it’s that whole ‘aneurism’ thing. Even if it werea valid concern, it’s not a reason to replace a VP pick. If, God forbid, something happened, then Obama could select Hillary with minimal blow-back. But to just dump him from the ticket? I don’t think Obama’s that cynical.
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I don’t think anyone thinks Biden is actually unhealthy, it will just be the excuse given, and like Snoop and Obama-Clinton said, Obama will accept it with sadness and reluctance that this man is simply too old to continue.
In other news, I read DBKY’s account on the origins of Barack Obama’s name actually meaning
‘Blessings of Al-Husayn Obama.’
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/09/barack-hussein-obama-the-muslim-origins-of-obamas-names/
I’m not sure if your writer is aware, but the Shrine of Al-Husayn is a very sacred muslim site near the old quarter of
Khan al-Khalili, and the Blessing of AL-Husayn is an actual muslim protective prayer.
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IF Biden had a legit health concern, that’s another story. But with Obama taking the lead in the polls, I find this talk very ghoulish in the same manner that I’ve read some Republican posts about how they are voting for McCain in the hope that he dies soon after taking office.
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I don’t see this RUMINT reflected very many places, especially in right-leaning forums, where I’d expect it: MM, LGF, AoS, etc. Who’s floating this stuff?
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You got me. Sounds to me like some sort of trial balloon that never got off the ground.
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Pj, which blogger said they were voting for McCain and hoping he would die? That’s just so wrong.
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The ones who think Palin would implode if she ever had to take the reins.
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She won’t implode. She’s got a lot more experience than Barack Obama.
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It would be the right move for Obama, that’s for sure.
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The ONLY way Obama could put Hillary on the ticket without sinking his election is if Biden died before the election.
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This is a recycled story/rumor, repackaged for Obama/Biden. The exact same rumor made the rounds in democratic circles about Cheney withdrawing from the race citing health concerns…don’t believe it
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Not gonna happen. Biden is CFR. Obama’s wife is CFR. Palin is a nobody, not backed by the globalists. Obama and Biden will be appointed. All they have to do is sell the decision (that has already been made) to the sheeple.
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Wrong doers better be afraid of Sarah Palin.
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It’s clear that Biden is baggage for Obama - but it was his (silly) decision to have him instead of Hillary, and this in no litle extent due to his vanity and for not wanting to share the limelight - so, back in obscurity - I, for my self, won’t miss that shoe-sized chinned clown.
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