John Edwards Scandal: The Curious August 14 Flight of N178AX – UPDATE
Just Another “Curious Coincidence”?
[BIG Hat Tip: DP]
UPDATE at end of story: 14:35 EDT
The above image is a reproduction of the flight log of a private plane, N178AX, registered to Baron & Budd PC from Dallas’ Love Field to Providenciales International Airport in the Caribbean on August 14.
More on this in a few paragraphs.
[ED. NOTE: Just discovered that the plane number in the headline was incorrectly stated as "N179AX"--the correct number is in this story--it is N178AX. That's what no sleep will result in sometimes. Apologies to readers for any confusion. Thanks to dossier for pointing it out.]
The National Enquirer reported that Rielle Hunter and baby daughter, Frances Quinn Hunter, flew out of the U.S. on August 7 to the St. Croix in the Virgin Islands to stay at the home of John Edwards’ acquaintance, Lee Rohn.
Rohn is a “controversial” attorney, in the words of the Enquirer. The Enquirer also reported that the Hunters later moved out of Rohn’s house and into other accommodations. Rielle and Frances Hunter, stayed in St. Croix from August 7 until August 17, when they returned to Santa Barbara, CA.
During their stay in the sunny Caribbean, the above-mentioned Raytheon Hawker 800 twin jet, registered to Baron & Budd PC landed a short distance away–as the Caribbean crow flies–at Providenciales International Airport on August 14. We have no word–as yet–how many passengers this plane carried, who they were or whether the passenger(s) found their way to other points in the Caribbean.
[Background information: access over 100 DBKP stories on the John Edwards-Rielle Hunter affair and cover-up: John Edwards Love Child Scandal Library.]
The information turned up at DBKP in an email titled “Interesting Flight”. We thought so, too.
It may turn out that nothing about this flight is out of the ordinary. The rich who own such jets regularly visit the Caribbean for both the fun and the sun the area provides. Or, at least, we’ve heard.
We only mentioned it for a couple of reasons.
1 – By publishing the information of the flight, we may receive an email with additional information about the flight’s passenger(s) and purpose(s)–either by the parties involved or another reader as curious as we are.
2 – By publishing the information, we receive no additional info.
In the event of (1), we apologize in advance for any incovenience this may have caused. We’re just asking a few questions.
In the event of (2), the August 14 flight of N178AX to Providenciales International Airport will join the stack of curious coincidences that have surrounded the affair of John Edwards and his mistress, Rielle Hunter.
Lately, those curious coincidences have included Frances Quinn, purported to be the daughter of Edwards and Rielle Hunter; as well as Fred Baron, the finance chair of Edwards’ run for president earlier this year.
How about it?
Are there any out there that can shed further light on the particulars of N178AX? Is the flight’s timing/destination just a coincidence?
Again, we’re just asking.
In a later post today, DBKP will ask additional questions concerning the flights and travel arrangements between the John Edwards campaign and its finance chair, Fred Baron. We also have some additional questions for Julian Chambers, the campaign treasurer, concerning certain–some might say “curious”–campaign travel arrangements.
And in yet another post later today, we hope to provide a few answers to some of those questions.
As was previously stated, this flight–taken during the Hunters’ stay in the nearby Virgin Islands–may be nothing about which to ask any questions.
On the other hand, curious coincidences–and the questions concerning them–have a habit of following the main actors in this story.
It makes no difference to DBKP either way.
But, we’ll continue to keep asking questions–at least, until others join.
UPDATE: 1435 EDT
Another alert DBKP readers sends us another mystery flight by the N178AX.
This time, the busy jet was again flown from Dallas to Provo, but on August 6–the day before Rielle Hunter and Frances Quinn took their all-expenses paid trip to St. Croix on August 7.
Again, probably nothing–just another “coincidence”.
Funny now the Baron & Budd jet continues to turn up in the locale of Hunter and daughter during the same time frame.
Some might even label it “curious”.
[NOTE: We're waiting to hear back from the attentive DBKP reader who sent this on how he'd like to be referred to in his HAT TIP. It may turn out that a masterful web of attorneys will prove no match for an equally-masterful army of readers!]
by Mondoreb
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I think you might be going a bit too far out on the limb here. Providenciales is in Turks and Caicos, which unlike St Croix, is not a US territory…so there’s a lot more INS/Customs/DHS/State Department tracking. It’s also not adjacent to St. Croix – see the map of the Caribbean at http://www.thebeach.vi/images/lg-caribbean-map.jpg
A clandestine meeting with Rielle would be much easier on St Thomas, St John, St Croix, or Puerto Rico…and there are tons of boats/small planes going back and forth between these US owned islands with little or no documentation.
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Maybe Edwards didn’t want to make a clandestine meeting easier.
Maybe Edwards wanted to avoid any evidence of a clandestine meeting.
Rielle Hunter was in St Croix, but maybe she didn’t stay in St Croix the whole time, hence attorney Lee Rohn’s protestations that the guest cabin the Enquirer filmed is under construction and has no floor.
Its a ten minute flight by puddle jumper to San Juan or Santa Domingo, and float planes don’t need airports to land, they can literally land anywere there isn’t surf.
Plus there are lots of private yacht clubs in St Croix with Air Taxi service, or even less traceable, boats.
Something like a Wellcraft Scarab could make either of those destinations very quickly.
Where was John Edwards last weekend?
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If Edwards did fly to the Caribbean last week to rendezvous with Rielle Hunter, it shows she’s under an enormous strain and is about ready to burst.
He’s under so much scrutiny now that any slight movement could be exposed. This move would just be completely reckless, unless Hunter was becoming completely unmanageable and the game was close to being over.
Tick tock.
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Anyone going to/from Turks/Caicos and the US has to go through customs and immigration – and travel by plane or boat requires passports to do so. Going between the US, any of the USVI, and Puerto Rico don’t require this. Inter-island travel between islands owned/controlled by different countries, even by boat, requires the clearing of customs and immigration on both sides…and there are records. We’ve chartered quite a few boats and planes in the Caribbean, so I’m familiar with this sort of thing.
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Yeah, but things are much more relaxed in the Caribbean.
If you arrive at a dock at night, ninety percent of the time there’s not even anyone on duty who can process your forms until the next morning.
You just leave a note and they walk down to your marina in the morning.
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Why risk it, though, when they could go to the USVI or PR, which are (a) less than 100 miles from St Croix and (b) require no such risks?
FYI – Distance between Grand Turk, Turks and Caicos Islands and Saint Croix, Indiana, United States, as the crow flies:
1477 miles (2377 km) (1283 nautical miles)
http://www.indo.com/cgi-bin/dist/place2=st+croix?place1=Turks
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ER…Just saw it calculated to St Croix, INDIANA. LOL
For some reason, I can’t get the program to take a USVI site. Here’s the distance from Distance between Grand Turk, Turks and Caicos Islands and San Juan, Puerto Rico, United States, as the crow flies:
391 miles (630 km) (340 nautical miles)
St Croix is about 100 miles South of PR, if I remember correctly…so it would be almost 500 miles between Provo and St Croix. Not exactly an “island hop” by boat.
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Maybe they’ve got a fixer in Turks and Caicos.
If they were setting up a clandestine meeting, the goal would be to make the second travel leg untraceable.
When you draw a line between Turks and St Croix and Puerto Rico is the obvious meeting point.
Let’s see, a US territory subject to US courts and a client using only Asbestos lawyers as fixers… whom would I choose.
Wow. looks like there was a $1.3 billion dollar Asbestos settlement in Puerto Rico in the 90’s
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07EED81E30F93BA2575BC0A962958260
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Why does so much of the John Edwards investigation originate back to links at the New York Times, yet they really have done almost no investigation of this case.
The NYT should have owned this.
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Owens Corning also settled a huge asbestos suit in Puerto Rico in 2006.
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This is just incredible cyber detective work.
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I read elsewhere that Ms. Hunter stopped in Alabama enroute to the US Virgin Islands to pick up a passport for her baby. Why would she do that, when she does not need a passport to go to the USVI?
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There is obviously a lot more to figure out about this issue, but you made some really good points. I will definitely be checking here more often. Thank you.
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