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John Edwards Scandal: Rielle Hunter, Edwards, Young, Baron Hiding in Plain Sight?
John Edwards, Rielle Hunter, Andrew Young, Fred Baron:
“They’re all still hiding, but they’re hiding in plain sight. We can see them! Don’t they know we can all see them hiding?”
–DBKP’s LBG on the continued subterfuge in the John Edwards Scandal
Why is everyone in the John Edwards’ scandal still hiding?
As LBG emailed recently, “They’re all still hiding, but they’re hiding in plain sight. We can see them! Don’t they know we can all see them hiding?”
[Background information - Almost 100 DBKP stories on John Edwards, Rielle Hunter, the affair, scandal and cover-up since December: John Edwards Love Child Scandal Library.
In what's likely to be the last story, before the National Enquirer publishs more baby pix to nail John Edwards' confessional lies to the barn door, a few observations and questions about the "99% honest" man:
*** Rielle Hunter continues to be jetted around the country, in an attempt to be kept out of sight of a suddenly-awakened MSM.
Why?
After the Edwards PR appearance on ABC's Nighline on August 8, the Enquirer released this information a week afterwards:
And now The ENQUIRER has uncovered that Edwards' political operatives are still paying his mistress Rielle Hunter - and she was whisked away on a private jet two days before he confessed their extramarital affair on national TV!
Again, we ask, "Why?"
Are these the actions of a "99% man"? Perhaps Edwards, who offered gallantly to submit to a paternity test, doesn't know anything about this? Perhaps it is just the actions of Edwards' finance chair, the equally-gallant Fred Baron?
The Enquirer's latest print edition reported, however, that "Trapped like a rat, John Edwards spoke those soothing words to his mistress Rielle Hunter after admitting to their illicit affair." The "soothing words Edwards spoke?
"Of course, I still love you. Don't worry, we'll get through this."
This was not widely--if at all--reported in a MSM that is now chasing the Enquirer's leads in the story after building an impressive wall of silence for months. Perhaps the MSM still handles the Enquirer's leads like days-old garbage?
The Enquirer is good enough to investigate the story, report the story, stay with the story for months and continues to be light-years ahead of the MSM in the quest for the "truth".
Big Media can now report the story of John Edwards, Fred Baron, Rielle Hunter, Andrew Young and details of the cover-up, not because the story was under their noses for the better part of a year: but because John Edwards gave them permission to investigate and report it when he went on ABC's Nightline August 8 and admitted his affair. BM (Big Media, though other, more earthy thoughts are brought to mind by the initials) will be taking its investigative marching orders from the National Enquirer for a while yet.
And likely seething the entire time.
*** John Edwards and Fred Baron's statements belie their actions. If the affair was over and John Edwards is not the father, then why are all the principals in the matter still acting like they have something to hide?
Andrew Young, the man who fell halfway on his sword for Edwards--he claimed in December he was the father, but didn't put his name on the birth certificate--has scooted back to North Carolina with his family.
Why doesn't Andrew Young issue another statement declaring his paternity of Frances Quinn Hunter? That wouldn't settle any questions, just as his December statement failed to settle any--except for decidedly un-curious MSM editors and reporters, most notably, CBS's Bob Scheiffer.
Scheiffer was rewarded for his infamously un-curious nature by getting a phone call from John Edwards shortly after his statement was released for the press on August 8. Edwards apparently knew he could count on good, ole Bob not to ask any unpleasant questions during that phone conversation.
In his statements, Baron is still treating the press like he's on trial with his carefully-parsed sentences. Who know? Perhaps Baron can see into the future?
John Edwards' carefully-crafted statement and interview answers are his last comments on the affair. It's hard to see how he can say anything at this point that would improve his situation.
Perhaps that's why John Edwards has been hard to see during the last 11 days: Edwards is still in the self-imposed seclusion he entered on July 30, after reporters attempted to question him about his "incident" at the Beverly Hilton on July 21.
*** Rielle Hunter is keeping mum, except to issue a statement through her Baron-suggested attorney that she's not willing to call for Edwards to take a paternity test. Hunter's sister, however, was not as close-lipped and did ask for Edwards to step up to the paternity plate.
Apparently, Melissa and Rielle did not consult on that point. Edwards and Baron did not consult about Rielle Hunter and her living arrangements and numerous private jet trips--according to their statements. [John Edwards Cover-up: Press Releases a Carefully-Orchestrated Affair?]
So, John Edwards, Andrew Young and Rielle Hunter have remained inaccessible to the pleadings of the press for more information.
*** Fred Baron has clarified, but hasn’t exactly been a Pigeon O’Brien about appearing before the press to clear up matters, in the last few days.
“The bottom line to it is John Edwards and Elizabeth Edwards had no knowledge of anything I did,” Mr. Baron said. “I did it as a friend.”
That was Fred Baron’s last known utterance on the matter, reported by the Dallas Morning News.
It may be the last for awhile. The Enquirer is expected to publish this week more baby pictures, including, it is supposed, some that also feature John Edwards.
Which may force everyone involved to continue hiding in plain sight.
[Apparently, Deceiver–see below–isn’t the only one who thinks the Enquirer is going to release more baby pix this week. Radar also is reporting that more Kodak moments from previous John Edwards-Frances Quinn Hunter photo ops will be forthcoming from the Enquirer.
In keeping with their finely tuned plan to release additional incriminating pieces of the John
Edwards puzzle on their own timetable, the National Enquirer will tomorrow publish a photo of Rielle Hunter holding the baby that was created with John Edwards’ sperm, unless it was Andrew Young’s, though no one really buys that. Unlike the initial blurry pic of Edwards holding the baby from a couple weeks back, this one, says Liz Smith, is a “crisp crystal clear color shot.” (Given that Hunter is actually in the frame, we can safely assume that she didn’t take this pic, unlike the first one.)
Deceiver channels the spirit of 19th-century French psychotherapist, Emile Coue: Every Day, in Every Way, the John Edwards Story Gets Better and Better. If you’re short of time, a better John Edwards’ go-to source is hard to find.
Oh and a shout out to Doc Sanity’s latest edition of Carnival of the Insanities: she included pat’s Christians in Muslim Countries: Saudi Girl Burned Alive for Being Christian in her weekly roundup of the bizarre and insane.
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Elizabeth Edwards must like being humiliated over and over again. Does she not realize when all is said and done, she is going to look like a total fool? Does she have no integrity or self-respect? And she had the nerve to say Edwards would be a better champion for women’s rights than Hillary. Amazing! I hope a federal investigation starts soon over the campaign finances- he won’t dare lie under oath. And did you see the fear in his eyes when Bob wanted info on when it started and if it started before he hired her? It looked to me he knew he had done something illegal and is hell-bent to try to head off any more investigation into it. Does anyone believe Edwards would shell out a penny of his own money for that woman unless he was forced to? Forget it- I bet his had the campaign pay for EVERYTHING.
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Elizabeth Edwards credibility has been pretty much destroyed right alongside John Edwards’ in this affair.
She recklessly risked the Democratic nomination and helped sell the Democratic National Party to the highest bidder.
Her carefully orchestrated tearful moments exploited our empathy and I would not be surprised to learn that she has an expected lifetime of twenty more years.
I couldn’t be more incensed if John Edwards had stolen money from me. Oh wait… he did.
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NY Post is reporting as well that the Enquirer is coming out with more baby pix.
I’m going out on a limb and say that something else is afoot with Edwards-Hunter-Young-Baron. I’m not sure what, but my gut tells me that with the affair now acknowledged, there seems to be little reason for Hunter to be on the lam. Something else is in play here—we just don’t know what it is yet.
Young has been kicked back to NC, his duty done. I surmise the reason why he hasn’t issued any statement regarding Baby Quinn’s paternity since the Hilton rendezvous is because there’s nothing more that he can say. His part is over with and he’s been paid off. No one believes him to the baby’s father, even his own mother.
Somehow, someway, this carefully orchestrated cover-up will fall like dominoes. It has to. Too many people involved and too many people are angry and upset.
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It’s so weird. If they just came out, admitted he is the father, it would be over. Nothing more to report. It is their business if they want to support his”mistake”. I don’t get it. Does he really think he can resume a political career? I just don’t get it.
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No one has actually seen Elizabeth Edwards in weeks. Her “statement” was written – and could have been submitted by Edwards or one of his cronies. Perhaps she is doing poorly in her battle against cancer right now…Edwards is telling Rielle Hunter to “Hold on…it’s only a matter of time,” so she’s continuing to go along with the games and keep her mouth shut. Meanwhile, Mrs. Edwards’ brother and best friend have trashed Edwards in an interview with People magazine.
In my mind, Mrs. Edwards’ failing health preventing her from taking action makes a whole lot more sense than her staying huddled up and standing by her man. She was a very good attorney – and NC has both fault-based alimony, as well as “heartbalm statutes.” She could bankrupt Edwards’ ass and ensure that her children got everything, rather than this skank and her baby. The fact that she hasn’t done so or been seen in public tends to support my theory on this.
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That is a gruesome assessment. I think if anything happens to EE anytime soon, the media will descend like locusts…
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Yes, Jane, it’s gruesome. Unfortunately, it’s also reality sometimes.
If you go back and look at the news stories, interviews, etc. of Elizabeth Edwards in 2006-2008, it doesn’t appear that she had much of a clue about what her husband was doing. She’s not the typical wife. She’s been through losing a child – you actually think dumping Edwards’ lying, cheating butt would have been worse than that?
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I think she might just be too flat out whipped to dump him. I think it is possible, when you are facing the knowledge of your impending death, (you KNOW you won’t make it 5 years), something takes over which makes everything seem unimportant. Maybe this whole thing IS being driven by EE, but, maybe it isn’t an effort to hide stuff from her. Maybe she just wants to have the world a certain way while she is around. And this might mean having you know who out of sight, out of mind. All EE has to do is quit surfing the net and she can pretend all of this will go away. So, I agree with your premise, I just thought I would throw out this twist.
I had some experience with infidelity. I swear, unless you see someone in the act, you want to believe them when they say all the stuff they say to make you fell better. I think it is an actual mental illness. (I am only being half serious.)
Anyway, this whole ‘affair’ is so bizarre. It is hard to remember that John Edwards seemed like a normal person. I live in NC and I remember when he ran for the senate and the ads making them look like the second coming of the Kennedy’s… the lovely, blurry house in the background, the two little toddlers running through the Monet like lawn. At first, I though they were a young couple (this was before I had ever heard of him.) I remember thinking “how odd” when I found out there was another grown child and the story of how they decided to have the two little ones. I remember thinking, “what a selfish thing, what if they die and don’t see them through college?” Really, I thought that. I have always thought they were over the top and slightly unbelievable. He actually thought he DESERVED to be president. Based on a bunch of nothing.
I have a good friend who went to the same Highschool in Robbins, (daughter of a mill worker, really!) she was in his class. Her mother knows his mother. He was the golden boy. What a schmuck. The town must be in shock…
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I have sympathy for EE, but zero respect. What the hell was that PEOPLE interview supposed to be about? If the Edwards have been so candid and forthcoming, what’s with all the hiding and secrecy? People with nothing to hide don’t act the way the Edwards have, I’m sorry.
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Just speculation, but, I suspect Mrs. Edwards has been getting little pieces of truth for a while, but actually seeing the swarmy composure of her husband in the Nightline interview may have helped her to see what a narcissistic, lying piece of trash he truly was. I don’t believe the claims that he “fessed up to everything long ago” and was “forgiven.” She might have found out something and been told it was an isolated incident, but didn’t know the full extent of the relationship…or the fact that it continued on and likely produced a child.
Edwards is likely telling himself that he’s being magnanimous in trying to “protect” Elizabeth in her dying days (sort of like his magnanimity in accepting full blame for the affair, LOL) but he’s just trying to keep too many balls up in the air – it’s all going to come crashing down around him. He won’t be able to placate both his wife and his babymama/mistress indefinitely.
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John Edwards – Fred Baron Payments Questions
The information on the internet does not jibe. There is probably a logical explanation but it is not apparent.
1. Reports filed by the Edwards campaign show many (apparently 128) payments for “airfare” to Frederick Baron (Federal Election Commission, fec.gov; opensecrets.org). There are more airfare payments to Frederick Baron than any other airfare payee.
2. There appears to be only one entry for airfare payment to Baron & Budd, of $2,517, according to the Open Secrets website.
3. Baron’s full name is Frederick Martin Baron. He lives in Dallas, TX (Wikipedia entry for Fred Baron, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Baron; website for Baron’s charitable foundation, Baron & Blue Foundation, baronandbluefdn.org).
4. Baron’s Wikipedia page and many news items on the internet state the campaign paid Fred Baron $1.1 million (or other substantial figures, depending on the date reported) to rent his Hawker 800 private jet.
5. FAA records and other sites, such as aircraftdata.net, do not show any aircraft – - whether a Hawker 800 or other aircraft – - registered in the name of Fred or Frederick M. Baron. Two planes are registered to a Fred N. Baron in Garberville, CA. Neither is a Hawker 800. Fred N. Baron seems to be unconnected to Fred/Frederick M. Baron of Dallas, TX.
6 The Hawker 800, formerly manufactured by Raytheon, is now the BAE 125 Series 800, manufactured by British Aerospace and assembled by Hawker Beechcraft, according to the Wikipedia page, Hawker 800 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_800).
7. A BAE 125 800, N-number 178AX, has been registered to Baron & Budd since January 2006, FAA online aircraft registration data shows
8. Fred Baron and his wife, Lisa Blue, sometimes known as Lisa Baron, left Baron & Blue in 2002 and litigation ensued between the Barons and the firm (Fred Baron’s Wikipedia page). Neither Fred Baron nor Lisa Blue are listed as lawyers at Baron & Budd’s website, baronandbudd.com. It seems unlikely the firm’s BAE 125 a/k/a Hawker 800 is leased to or actually owned by the Barons.
If there are no registration records for an aircraft in Fred Baron’s name, why is the campaign paying Frederick Baron for airfare? If Fred Baron’s ownership is through a corporation, why were the payments listed repeatedly to him instead of the corporation? Assuming there is error, and Fred Baron does, in fact, own a Hawker 800 (or BAE 125 800), why would he engage in the business of leasing it and receiving substantial income in his individual name rather than doing business through a corporation for liability and tax reasons? He is a lawyer and would know to consider a corporation for doing business. He set up a not-for-profit corporation for his charitable foundation, Baron & Blue, so it seems like he would also set up a corporate entity for his aircraft leasing business and require all payments to be made to it. If a payment were made erroneously to the individual rather to the business once or twice, it could be a simple error, but it seems unusual that dozens of payments would be paid to Baron individually. Would there not be a difference in accounting for income and being able to deduct expenses for an individual and a corporation? Would it be possible, if payments were made to an individual for jet leasing, that excess funds could be paid without easy detection and then passed on to other parties?
On the other hand, it seems such an obvious mistake that surely there is some mistake by the campaign in reporting or by Edwards and Baron, both lawyers.
Did Fred Baron personally pay income on the $1.1 million jet lease payments? Is it possible to obtain flight records to determine how payments were applied to flights? Can the campaign provide a copy of the contract with Fred Baron for jet leasing and cancelled checks made in payment? Is it possible to compare flight expense data of Edwards’ campaign with other candidates to see if the expenses are in the ballpark?
Does anyone have information on a Hawker 800 or other aircraft owned by Fred/Frederick M. Baron, including registration, N-number (the tail number?) and photos?
On a different topic, if Midline Groove was paid in excess of $114,000 for video production pursuant to a contract, did Midline Groove or the campaign pay Rielle Hunter’s hotel and meals expenses on the road? Can the campaign provide a contract to make clear how those expenses were paid and to clear up other questions about the services provided?
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Correctio:
Paragraph 8. should read that Baron and his wife left the law firm of Baron & Budd, not Baron & Blue.
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National Enquirer has new stuff online:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_blockbuster_new_expose/celebrity/65316
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I just read the Enquirer article—I am agog. They asked the $64 million dollar question: if the affair is over, why the fuck is Edwards’ “friends” still shuttling her around and paying her expenses? If the baby is really Andrew Young’s, why isn’t he paying child support? What could Rielle Hunter say that would be MORE damaging than the affair and their baby? The mind reels.
And even if EE was in the dark before—via the “installment” plan—she HAS to be aware of what is going on now, via Edwards’ supporters.
This bleeds like finding a horse head in your bed.
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