Debunking Larry Sinclair: Obama Accuser Allegations Based on Time Travel
Sinclair Claims He Contacted Obama, Press
TWO Months Before Event Actually Happened
Debunking Larry Sinclair: Part One of a 3-part series
Larry Sinclair’s Magic Trip Through Time
Part 1: The forest for the trees…
I’m challenging Mr. Obama to come forth, be honest, stop claiming that his drug use is limited to his teenaged years. In 1999 you weren’t a teenager, in 1999 you were a state representative for the people of of the state of Illinois. In 1999, I performed oral sex on you in the back of my limo as well as my hotel room in Gurnee, Illinois two days later.
–Larry Sinclair – Youtube video – January 17, 2008
Larry Sinclair, the man who accused Barack Obama of engaging in a sexual tryst while imbibing illegal drugs in November of 1999, arrived on the cyber-space scene via Youtube in January.
Sinclair gave additional “details” in subsequent cyber-talk interviews. Some of the “details” from Sinclair’s story included:
~Sinclair’s explanation as to why he was in the Chicago area during that time period, a graduation at the local Naval Academy.
~A copy of a letter from Choice Hotels International, which Sinclair claimed verified he stayed at a Choice Hotel in Gurnee, Illinois, during the time he allegedly met Obama.
~How Sinclair “met” Obama through an introduction made by the driver of a limo Sinclair had rented.
~The name of the “upscale lounge” where Sinclair claimed the two had drinks and Obama made a phone call to “purchase cocaine” for Sinclair, who later admitted he was on parole from the state of Colorado at the time.
~And, at times, overly-vivid descriptions of the two alleged sexual encounters and cocaine drugfest and the dates they occurred.
It was those details–and a slew of others–to which cyber-sleuths turned their attention in order to disprove Sinclair’s story. Ironically, Sinclair’s supporters believed the onus should be on Obama proving he never met up with Sinclair–not on Sinclair having to provide adequate proof regarding his accusations.
Yet, there was one detail that escaped attention. This “detail” went to the very foundation of Sinclair’s story and has gone unnoticed–until now: the “reason” Sinclair gave as to why he “came forward” with his accusations against Senator Obama.
I first decided to approach Obama’s camp back in September. Actually, after watching some news reports and some statements that Obama had made in some references that had come out regarding his past drug use . And he had claimed that people were making things up, that his drug use was limited to his early years, that in his professional career and public career he had never used drugs.
–Sinclair onThe Jeff Rense Show Jan. 23, 2008
I was actually inspired by Barack Obama as well until I saw a young person last fall … and saw Obama make a statement to this person who was coming across to this person… I’m honest, I’m transparent, I’m everything that nobody in Washington can say they are. Right Perspective Interview – Feb. 9, 2008
Sinclair claimed during an interview on the Jeff Rense Show (Jan. 23, 2008), that he had made the decision to “approach Obama’s camp” in September of 2007. Sinclair claimed during his Right Perspective interview that he was “inspired” by Obama until he “saw” Obama with a “young person last fall”.
Sinclair stated he made the decision to approach the Obama camp in September after “watching some news reports and some statements” Obama had made regarding his past drug use. Sinclair claimed he sent emails in September to the Obama camp in order to “confront” Obama.
“I had sent several emails to their website addressing the issue simply putting forth to Mr. Obama to come forth and say “hey, you know what, I made a mistake, I misspoke, the timing is a little off, and then go from there…” I was ignored.
Sinclair also claimed on the Big Head DC blog that he had “left phone messages” at the Obama campaign beginning in September:
Between September 2007 and November 2007, I left a total of four (4) different cell phone numbers with the office of the Obama campaign. This was necessary because I had to adjust the telephone number to correspond with each new location where I lived in that period. I have explained in my blog how I slowly made my way north to Minnesota before settling there.
During the Right Perspective interview, Sinclair claimed he would have “supported Obama” for President until Obama refused to “come out” after he was “confronted” about his drug use “last fall”:
To be honest with you I probably would have supported him (Obama) if he had come out last fall when he was confronted with this.”
We decided to take a look at what Sinclair “saw” or “heard” Obama say or do “last fall”–especially in regards to speaking to a “young person”–that would have led Sinclair to “contact” the Obama camp in September.
One of the annoying side effects of running for President is that everything you say or do is recorded and then dissected ad nauseum by the press. On the flip side, for those of us looking for information to investigate the veracity of Sinclair’s claims, the press’ diligence has paid off:
MSNBC:
Obama today talked to a group of high school students in New Hampshire about his adolescent drug use, drinking alcohol and being a “goof off†in high school. It is certainly not the first time Obama has spoken on the subject of his drug use, but it is the first time he has discussed it on the campaign trail. Obama wrote at length on it in his best-selling memoir, Dreams from My Father.
This excerpt is from an article written November 20, 2007. Note that the writer makes reference to this being the “first time” Obama has spoken about his past drug “on the campaign trail”. It’s also the only time Sinclair could have “seen” Obama addressing a “young person” about his past drug use.
[above: Obama addressing high school students in New Hampshire, November 20, 2007.]
“I will confess to you that I was kind of a goof off in high school as my mom reminded me,†Obama said. “I went to high school in Hawaii, so there’s a lot of opportunity to goof off because the weather is really good all the time. I did well in school, but I didn’t really apply myself. I did what I needed to, to get into college, and it came fairly easily to me, but I never worked as hard as I should have.
“I was big on basketball; I was a basketball player. We were state champs. I thought I was better than I was. But I just loved the game and I played basketball a lot. I thought about girls a lot.
“You know, I made some bad decisions…. You know, got into drinking and experimenting with drugs. There was a whole stretch of time where I didn’t apply myself. It wasn’t until I got out of … high school, and went to college that I started realizing, man, I wasted a lot of time. Barack Obama speaks at New Hampshire High School, November 20, 2007 Source MSNBC
We could find no other instances where Obama addressed “young people” about his drug use after August of 2007–other than when he spoke to the New Hampshire high school students in November.
“The Mainstream Media and Obama himself has done greatly (sic) to prevent this story from becoming public.” Larry Sinclair’s First Youtube
Sinclair claimed in his original Youtube video that the “Mainstream Media and Obama” had “prevented” Sinclair from getting his “story” to the public. But was this allegation true? And, if Obama and/or the MSM had attempted to “prevent” Sinclair from getting his “story” out, where was his proof that this had happened?
Sinclair claimed he contacted the Obama camp via “emails” and “phone calls” beginning in September 2007. Sinclair posted on his website copies of letters he purportedly wrote to Obama after he posted his video on Youtube in January 2008.
In fact, Sinclair has posted a veritable cornucopia of Sinclair documents: photos, letters, emails, etc., on his website, LarrySinclair0926.com. Yet, Sinclair hasn’t posted one single copy of any emails he purportedly wrote to the Obama “camp” or campaign between September and January 17, when he posted his first video on Youtube.
Sinclair has also never provided any evidence that he contacted the MSM prior to the release of his January video.
In the end, Sinclair’s claim that there was a graduation at the Naval Academy was most likely true. As was Sinclair’s claim that he stayed at the Choice Hotel in Gurnee, Illinois.
Sinclair has yet to deliver the purported limo driver, even though at one point he promised to produce a signed affidavit. He continues to maintain that he first contacted the Obama camp in September 2007. This is one of the few parts of Sinclair’s story which he has not changed. No one has questioned Sinclair as to what date he allegedly “saw” Obama speaking to a young person about his prior drug use–the event which propelled Sinclair to allegedly send emails to the Obama camp beginning in September.
Obama had written in his memoirs about his prior drug use. Sinclair claimed that he had never read any of Obama’s books. He also claimed that he would have “supported” Obama up until “last fall” until he “saw” Obama speak to a “young person” about his past drug use, where Obama claimed he had stopped doing drugs after his high school years.
Sinclair built the foundation of his allegations on a false date: the month of September. Larry Sinclair claims he emailed and called the Obama campaign in September 2007: a full two months before the incident he claims caused him to come forward with his story occurred.
It’s been 5 months since Sinclair first broadcast his accusations against Obama on Youtube. Since then, Sinclair has raised thousands of dollars from supporters while continuing to peddle his accusations on his website–all without providing any proof other than a copy of hotel records that he stayed in Gurnee, Illinois in November of 1999.
Nine years later, the month of November–this time in 2007–has come back to bite Sinclair in the allegation butt.
Part 2 and 3 to follow this weekend.
By LBG
images: dbkp file
notes: Mondoreb
Source – The Right Perspective – Larry Sinclair Interview
Source – Big Head DC – Larry Sinclair Claims Connection to Murdered Gay Choirmaster at Obama’s Controversial Church
Source – The Jeff Rense Show – Interview with Larry Sinclair
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Excellent investigating and reporting. Hercule Perot could not have done better. I just discovered this site. I’m bookmarking it and will read regularly from now on.
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Brilliant!
Fun how often the most simple things which are right in front of us are the most telling of all. Great work friends!
Keep it up!
M
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fantastic job,. just one more of the many lies proven against $inclair. He’s a con man and liar and it’s amazing that any person would believe him. He has no proof and with all the out right lies that can be proved against him, why would anyone think he is telling the truth.
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The Mitch and Nan Show bloggers are nothing more a bunch of hateful frauds who’s main objective is to harass Mr. Sinclair and his supporters by any evil rotten vulgar means possible with hopes that Mr. Sinclair will give up his quest in trying to make Barack Hussein Obama come clean regarding his 1999 CRACK COCAINE use.
I offer my deepest apology to Mr. Sinclair and his supporters for my part in harassing them on a public internet forum. I’m sincerely sorry for my part in displaying all of Mr. Sinclair’s supporters email addresses, and in some cases even more personal information. We at themitchandnanshow acquired those members email addresses by hacking into Mr. Sinclair’s WordPress blog. I’m very aware that what we have done is considered a cyber crime, and that all those who participated can be prosecuted under the internet harassment law guidelines. I humbly beg Mr. Sinclair and his supporters for forgiveness and a peaceful ending to this matter.
With My Most Sincerest and Deepest Apology,
Gumby
[Admin NOTE: This is not the same Gumby who regularly posts at the Mitch & Nan blog.]
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As usual; just another pack of lies from the turds on the Mitch and Nan Show cesspool blog.
******************I WILL ALWAY BELIEVE IN YOU LARRY SINCLAIR******************
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Ginn, great work. I can’t believe we all missed that. Good thing YOU caught it.
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LWS
As usual; just another pack of lies from the turds on the Mitch and Nan Show cesspool blog.
******************I WILL ALWAY BELIEVE IN YOU LARRY SINCLAIR******************
Got any links to prove our story is “a pack of lies”?
DBKP used quotes made by Larry Sinclair during various radio interviews. So any “lie” would have come straight from Sinclair’s mouth.
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LWS Supporter,
As usual; just another pack of lies from the turds on the Mitch and Nan Show cesspool blog.
As with most thing Sinclair, you are long on name-calling, short on any evidence to back up your claim that our story is “a pack of lies”.
Like your mentor, you offer no proof of your allegations.
Thanks for taking the time to stop by, read and comment.
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I just saw a ‘report’ by a person named Jennifer Flowers who is accusing the present President, Bill Clinton of something but I must be lying because he isn’t the present President, and therefore my dates are ‘all a twist’, and therefore Jennifer Flowers is clearly a liar, just as the other reports I saw suggest.
Could anyone explain to me how it’s possible to make a typo or be confused about dates? It’s just not possible, is it?
Could anyone also explain to me how it’s possible that someone , who is a fraud, could consistently make accusations where SEVERAL RELEVANT DATES ARE REPEATEDLY MADE, and yet the accused is unable to refute their veracity?
Has anyone seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDgc6tZTBpk
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Ginn….
You are one heck of a reporter. I never did listen to many of his interviews so I basically only had the recaps. (I can’t stand to hear him whining.) Not that anything he said was true and not that the Larry supporters will change their minds. The can be given a hundred inconsistencies. If they got a full schedule of Obama’s whereabouts, they would say it was forged. I’m going to work soon on a list of all the lies Larry told about me. Some of them have caused quite a laugh in my house. My kids know I don’t have the skills to do the deeds which Larry claims I’ve been able to accomplish. I just hope they throw his ass in jail soon. It is where he belongs.
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Excellent work Ginn! I look forward to the follow up stories.
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Joe said:
Could anyone also explain to me how it’s possible that someone , who is a fraud, could consistently make accusations where SEVERAL RELEVANT DATES ARE REPEATEDLY MADE, and yet the accused is unable to refute their veracity?
Well Joe…
Let me explain it to you this way:
The video you linked to has absolutely no value as far as proving Sinclair’s allegations against Obama.
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Great post Glix…
These folks supporting Wormtongue after all thats come out, well, these dummys wouldn’t know if they were on foot or horseback.
Mercy.
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I mean Ginn, not glix.
Sorry!
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While I profess to not know if Larry Sinclair’s allegations about Obama and he are true, I do find his story compelling and intriguing. I wonder if when Larry Sinclair mentioned a “young person” he was bespeaking the name Donald Young, the openly gay choir director at the church to which Obama was (currently?) a member? Anyway, I must say that I have had a somewhat similar experience with a very high-level diplomat “many moons ago”. I was much, MUCH (smiling) younger and niaive. Oddly, I am just an “average” gay guy and had absolutely no anticipation anything like what happened between me and the high-level diplomat would occur. The difference between my experience and Larry Sinclair’s is that I actually have letters which were written to me. It is very difficult to have “corroborated proof” sometimes when things are unplanned. I am certain that Bill Clinton’s (except Monica Lewinsky) women with whom alleged affairs ran on many (if not ALL) mainstream media did not have the “corroborated proof” that some of us so emphatically request from Larry Sinclair.
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leepers
Sinclair told people he had proof then failed to produce it after months of promises subsidized by asking for “donations”.
After literally thousands of dollars being sent to Sinclair, many of his supporters have learned the hard way that Sinclair spins a good yarn but failed to follow through with what he claimed could prove his story.
The Donald Young accusations were added months after Sinclair’s original allegations when Sinclair’s traffic had begun to dwindle.
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Hate to rain on everyone’s parade, but here is an article from Aug of 2008 mentioning the drug use issue from Obama’s youth. It doesn’t mean that this guy is telling the truth, but it proves the “not since my youth” story was out before sept.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4490
Acting on information provided by a left-wing group known as Media Matters, which functions as an unofficial arm of the Democratic Party, the New York Times attacked Corsi for charging that Obama has “yet to answer†whether he ever dealt drugs and when he stopped, if indeed he ever did. The Times protested that Obama has answered that charge, at least the part about quitting marijuana and cocaine, by saying that he hasn’t used drugs since he was 20 years old.
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Great job. I can’t believe nobody had checked that earlier. I had not followed this for a long time and was reading some of your more recent work and I just got curious if you’d written any more on LS that I had not seen.
Dan- – You mention an Aug 2008 article. We’re talking Aug 2007.
And in any case the info in the article you mention does not fit what Sinclair claimed he had seen– Obama speaking in public, talking to a “young person” about his drrug use in his youth — which according to LS is what led him to call the campaign starting in Sept 2007.
Larry’ s lucky nobody proved this earlier or he might have raked in a little less money from gullible supporters.
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