Hostage Negotiations: Chinese-Style
Chinese Hostage Negotiations
A Recent Case Study

In this country, we would block off the street, take 12 hours to talk him out of it, spend $5 million giving him a fair trial, and pay his food and lodging for life.
No wonder their products are cheaper than ours.
by RidesAPaleHorse
images: RAPH
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Works for me.
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Great lesson in geometry and life- the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.
I haven’t laughed so hard in a long while!
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someone in pain dead, ya great. same for trolls i hope and prey (sic).
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So much easier and faster.
If there is someone dumb enough to do something like that, they don’t deserve to be held in prison and PAID for by the citizens through tax.
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Clearly time has passed. Daytime in the first two, night in the rest….your all idiots
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St. John Reply:
December 15th, 2009 at 01:22
That’s not necissarily true. There are many factors at play before one can determine the last pictures are at night. Cloud cover, flashes on cameras, camera swaps, zooming (to name a few). I think it is brash to call everyone idiots.
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That’ll be “You’re all idiots”, Zach. Idiot.
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Yes, there is clearly way too much democracy in your glorious nation. The USA should become more like China. Or North Korea.
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“Someone in pain dead” — opeongo
Yes, I’d have more compassion for that “someone in pain” if that someone didn’t threaten to kill another innocent someone. There are consequences for actions, no matter what you “feel”.
My compassion disappears for anyone “in pain” when they intend to inflict pain or death on someone else. I have even less compassion if that “poor soul” makes demands on others. It’s not being “in pain”, it’s called being “whiningly selfish”.
While I don’t think Cops should be trigger-happy, I do say that the USA no longer punishes criminals for criminal behavior. This notion of “rehabilitation” is inexcusable. There are consequences for actions, and there should be punishments for violations of law. The punishment should fit the crime, and when the punishment is finished, you can then rehabilitate. Criminals need to understand that punishment is punishment.
Once upon a time criminals were given appropriate punishments for their crimes. Once upon a time there were chain gangs, and hard labor punishments, not group sessions. Once upon a time the crime rate was lower. Justice is robbed all too often in the USA.
With that said, I think all punishments should have a period of rehabilitation training after the punishment is over, or certain times or days between punishment times. Rehabilitation should never replace punishment. It should supplement it.
I have no problem punishing someone and teaching them a trade at the same time.
As for the above pictures, I’d call that cop a hero. He saved a child’s life from a completely selfish whining jerk.
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No one cares about your opinions, so do something more productive with your life than type it away defending a position.
I don’t even care about my opinion on these opinions and in my opinion I’m done with this!
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What’s wrong with the internet? People taking things too seriously. It’s a set of pics, it’s funny, laugh and move on, if you don’t like it, fine, don’t laugh and move on, either way, I doubt these pics were intended to incite everyone’s dissertation on justice, politics, and the American legal system.
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That’d be great if we dealt with hostage situations like that. If a few innocent hostages were accidentally killed per year, what does it matter so long as we save time and money.
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My only thought was that he could have pulled the boy out of the window with him after being shot. Looks like a close call to me if you check out where his legs were.
He had them almost wrapped round the kid and his body weight could have brought the poor little sod down with too.
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Once upon a time, our society actually still believed “innocent until proven guilty.” Apparently not anymore.
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idk, i mean, i’m pretty sure he was proven guilty at that moment, bro
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Cheering on socialist China? Right wing isn’t the same as authoritarian.
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No, in this country we’d block off the street, spend 5 hours talking him down, and send in the swat team. Tear gas the entire complex, including hostages, toss in a flashbang, send 4 guys with a cumulative 50,000 dollars worth of equipment on them, and escort everyone out.
In china, they use a rope and pistol. They just use cheaper products.
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what a great idea! lets follow ALL the chinese government’s examples – after all, they are FAMED for their compassion and justice… :S
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that is why skilled snipers all work for the west and in the east they tie a rope to get close enough har har
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I dislike the original poster. He wastes my bandwidth with useless crap. Kill him. He deserves it cause I decide so. He may not speak up against my verdict. I have decided that his crime is worth my punishment and do not tolerate anyone unrightfullya claiming otherwise.
Great.
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good work. Bravo
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Anyone who takes a child hostage deserves to die, period. If my kid was in that school, I’d have been the first one there with a rifle and a scope. And yes, I am a trained police sniper. My only regret is that the beauracrats spend too much time talking, and not enough action.
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The problem with doing this is, what if he has the gun pointed at one of them? What’s going to happen when you walk out of the other window and point a firearm at him? If this is the best way to defuse a crisis, then so be it; he’s threatening the lives of children, and even though I’m not one to call for blood, any means necessary have to be taken to protect innocent life. This could have ended very badly, though. They probably should have used a trained police sniper, at least.
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I am so tired of websites that give you the FULL PAGE ad break….
Never going to come here again.
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Pissed,
Sorry about the ad break…it comes up every 100th visitor to a story.
Gotta pay the bills somehow.
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Buncha fucktards. The photos are of chinks, so what the f**k’s all the discussion about the “f**ed up” American system. That’s a f**king chink cop shooting a f**kbag chink endangering a f**kung kid’s life. Next asshole is gonna say its photoshopped from Chinatown in SanFran. Keeristalmighty.
[Note: edited for gratuitous vulgarity]
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I’m glad that I never had to see someone shoot my dad in the head for him using bad judgment.
Who is the real victim here?
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Photoshopped!! lols
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anyone else notice his shirt changing color…
<.<
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Vagabond Reply:
January 18th, 2009 at 01:05
Different guy, douche.
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Nathan Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 15:26
Nope – but I did see the ambient light changing. Perhaps you’ve seen this in real life, too? Sun starts going down, becomes more pinkish, makes colours look different? Look at the bigger picture next time.
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In China if you’re caught with a Bible in your house, they throw your Christian ass in jail and then do a live organ harvest on ya the next time a Saudi needs a liver. So, what’ your point?
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The Internet: the paradise of contextless pictures
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I wonder what the boy will remember. Will he aspire to be a window-climbing assassin? Or is he destined to become another desperate hostage-taking fuck-up?
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You’re right we should eliminate due process and allow the police to act as judge jury and executioner. I hope when that day comes you don’t have any momentary lapses in judgment.
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I love how people are calling the threatening of the life of a child, a lapse of judgment. Seriously? I’m as liberal as the next person but boo hoo for the guy who threatened to kill a child.
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Hey guys!
Check snopes. The Chinese police actually tried to negotiate w/this guy for two hours. They felt he was on the verge of injuring the 2 children hed had hostage w/ two kitchen knives(he was armed). The police also put a huge airbag on the ground to attempt to protect the child and the man f/falling. The guy lived!
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I can’t believe only one person said anything about his shirt changing color, and everybody ignored it. Is this even real?
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Yeah! Fuck talking about shit! Shoot a motherfucker and ask questions later! Questions are for liberal commie pinko fags! I don’t even know the story behind this, nor do I care! I just accept the captions added by some blogger to a bunch of sequenced pictures, some of which may or may not have been left out! I don’t need to know anything else! The internet is super full of truth! Unless it’s written by libruls, then it’s fucking bullshit!
Woo! Get r dun!
Fuck….I’m so pumped up. Is there any NASCAR on?
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Hey Knukles, racist remarks are an embarrassment to the writer and without a doubt you are going to be arrested one day, if you aren’t already in jail, and get f**ked in the ass by a big, azz, MuthaF**kah, because most racist like you are usually stupid, narrow minded, incestuous losers who end up in jail. How many times have you been thrown in the back of a cop car without your shirt on? Don’t get angry at me – get mad at your cell mate who’s gonna make you his Bi-atch. You enjoy big cigars? Clinton could use your ass in case Lewisnki is busy. Racist loser – love yourself and you can love others, but that’s probably not possible for you so you’ll just live a miserable, unhappy, life with your dog/ wife. BTW, your President is a better man than you, and he’s a democrat. Martin Luther King Jr is a better man than you and he’s dead. Even, Rosie O Donnel is a better man than you, because you are a loser. LOSER- keeristalmighty – even Jesus wouldn’t want you, racist asshole.
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photoshopped. pixels are fucked, plus I’ve seen my share of ahops
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go to bed, kid
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jesus guys. its a set of pictures for christs sake. i dont think the guy who created this wanted everyone to debate how we do things in the USA. It is a chuklesome set of pictures, if you dont like it go on to another site.
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Im not saying that the guy didnt get what he deserves for taking a child hostage. However, there are reasons why we take the time to do things correctly in hostage situations. The first is that it is the government’s job to do whatever they can to end a situation with the least loss of life possible. The second is that what they did in this situation is just plain stupid. They risked the life of the hostage, as well as the negotiator in the choice of tactics they used. There is a reason police forces take the time and effort to train snipers, as well as negotiators.
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I am frankly surprised the Chinese police did anything. Whenever any information is released from China, realize that the government has allowed, possibly modified and edited it. Thus the story is propaganda. My experiences in China contradict any concern on the government’s part for human life. When there is an incident, the authorities typically don’t respond and only will do so when someone is dead. Children are horribly abused and victimized and the “police” do nothing. There is an overpass in Shenzhen where children are displayed with signs asking for charity. They often lack limbs and it is common knowledge that the assholes cut them off to make the kids look pitiful. They are typically drugged and left out for hours. The police do nothing. Human life is not valued as much in China as it the West. There are so many people that the government welcomes death. They execute more people in China yearly than the combined executions in the rest of the world. They put off their investigation of melamine induced deaths as to not embarrass their Olympic spectacle and their response to the earth quake was simply orchestrated propaganda.
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I am a British woman living in China, and I have to say that you are all talking out of your arses. You seem to either be saying ‘he deserved it, we are too soft’ or ‘China will lock you up for disagreeing’. Why don’t you all actually learn something about the world instead of just making it up?
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I’ll have to admit, I’m a little undecided about this one – particularly the little bit of extra text at the bottom. There’s a reason why we have “due process” in most civilized countries – there are often circumstances at play which police might not be aware of. Was the hostage taker being coerced? What he suffering a mental collapse? They don’t know.
As an example of unknown circumstances, look at the wrester Chris Benoit. When he killed his whole family and himself, most of the response was negative against him. Fair enough. That’s human nature (although Bill O’reilly typically went overboard without knowing the facts). What was the result of the research? He had a severely damaged brain which threw him into a psychotic rage. Is that the fault of Mr. Benoit the person? Of course not – he wasn’t even thinking right at the time.
If we also go back in history a little, we see many examples of police taking matters into their own hands, and ended up either killing or jailing completely innocent people. How is that fair? Sorry to say this, but I think a person’s life is a tad more important than a few extra dollars in your taxes.
Does the system always work? No. Nobody is making that claim. But simply resorting to brute-force CANNOT be condoned.
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